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I'll check out the DĂĽrr tomorrow, as I haven't looked at it in years. I suppose I ought to have done before I started doing the cantatas, but I don't think I've done anything that can't be improved. I'd love a look at the new edition of DĂĽrr, but our library doesn't have it yet (no surprise there,
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Re. "... once the article gets much longer" – many of the Bach cantatas are GA or FA (only BWVs 5 and 8 are neither in the BWV 1–12 range), so expanding this article, trying to get it to GA level would, imho, be an excellent idea. Trying to address your concerns in a split variant proposal ↓
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In general we'd have to consider how much primary source text material (copyrighted and non-copyrighted) we'd want to retain in the article, in view of the indicated guideline and policy. Whittaker's translation of two separate stanzas is maybe too much too (copyrighted afaik). Ideas?
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Thank you, and understand. I made the lead image a tad smaller. "Sandwiched" isn't quite right - sorry - just a load of images in the history section. Perhaps some can go to the movements once they are there. Take your time, - I just asked for patience in another corner,
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