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850:, but this is one of the many problems my proposal seeks to remedy, namely, you cannot search for this page on Knowledge unless you already know it exists. This page is a particularly bad offender in that area as if you're looking for quantum mechanics textbooks, you're not going to search Knowledge for lists of textbooks on classical mechanics and quantum mechanics. In fact, it is much easier and more common to search for physics textbooks. A page for list of physics textbooks should redirect to list of undergraduate physics textbooks and a hat not will point to graduate textbooks. Finally, All of these pages would redirect to the appropriate section of those pages, such as searching for list of textbooks on classical mechanics taking you to the classical mechanics section of the undergraduate physics textbook list. Finally, almost everyone who searches Knowledge for textbooks will be looking for undergraduate textbooks. (Also note, the thermodynamics list is horrible and is not broken properly into sections) So I don't think the "likely search" is a great argument against my plan here. Does that make sense and, if so, what do you think? 799:. It is easy to establish notability for each of these lists and use subsections and tables to make it easy to browse. This will allow both of those lists to be candidates for featured list status in the future, rather than random AfD discussions when noticed. In addition, it will allow for general physics books to be added to the undergrad page and specialty physics books to the grad page. Because there is nothing cited in this article and no prose, there is nothing to merge or keep and the name is not useful. I therefore want to propose it for deletion if everyone is on board with that plan. (We can create new redirects for each after) Let me know what you think, I'll wait a week or so before doing anything to allow for comments. Thanks! 270: 489: 462: 388: 378: 357: 594: 260: 233: 499: 167: 71: 53: 157: 139: 22: 878:. Someone else must have published something at some point specifying whether the book was grad or undergrad level, otherwise, it probably is not notable enough to be included in these lists. The de Facto criteria to make these lists has become the existence of at least one published review or recommendation. 630:
These lists may be useful, but can anyone give insight into why this particular pair of topics is linked in a single article? I can understand that separate articles for classical and quantum mechanics books could be too small, but why then don't we have a broader page like "List of textbooks in the
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I would argue that this page should at least specify in its name that it only lists mechanics/quantum textbooks. When I see a page titled "List of physics textbooks" I expect to see electromagnetism books as well as the above two topics. This is just based on my experience learning physics in three
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Though the existing 3 lists have sections for undergraduate & graduate, I disagree about making the 2 new lists as proposed, since a layperson would more likely search books by topic than by content level, e.g. undergraduate & graduate (which is more subjective). I agree with the talk page
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Also, sorry just noticed the bit about merging all into one page. The problem with that is the page would be far too big. Again, almost everyone looking for textbooks on Knowledge will be undergraduates. Therefore, my proposal to create
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That was the original name. I still have it listed on my personal page. I have not gone here for a while and did not notice that somebody had changed its name. Looking at the history of the page, the person who did so was you.
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is effectively the same solution as what you are calling for. The only difference is there would be an extra page to contain the many books that are meant for graduate level. It is not subjective at all, as I've said before,
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If we accept this argument, then it could be applied equally well to the others. One of the others is about statistical mechanics, and the word 'in' is used. Either change this one to 'in', or change the others to 'on'.
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Next time, please put new comments on the bottom. To answer your suggestion, the word 'on' makes more sense in this case, regardless of what the titles of the other ones are, because 'on' here means 'about'; the word
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Hi all, these three lists have notability problems as cohesive wholes and are rather unencyclopedic. They provide a valuable resource, however, so I am proposing that we rework all of these pages as
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core physics curriculum", with sections on classical mechanics, electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics, and maybe others? What's special about these two?
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No, this page was fine before. We already have pages listing notable textbooks for the other branches of physics. Please read the "See also" section.
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Agreed, this should be one page for physics textbooks in general including topics such as electromagnetism, statistical mechanics, relativity, etc..
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The word "on" in the title of this article should be changed to "in" for consistency with the other lists of textbooks.
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It seems like I have fooled myself then, not the first time. I can change it back to the former name.
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I'm not convinced that there is a notability concern; these do seem to meet the spirit of the
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revert the move per article content. There is no proposal to merge the various lists.
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general categories: mechanics, electromagnetism, and quantum.
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section above by Steuard to merge all 3 lists in one page.
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On 18 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be
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