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I believe that the current version lists too much; that is why I keep reverting back. I apoligize for that, but at least here me out. It was only until recently I believe that we started listing songs, and sketches. In my opinion, we really don't need that - or at least the sketches; I'd be fine with
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article - clearly not needed; it fills up too much space. I ask you, whose really going to care about what song the performer played on a spectific night or the sketches that came up that night? I certainly don't (I know I probably shouldn't use myself as an example - that's very poor), and I'm sure
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