831:.Also, there are lots of legal, official and independent recognition and accreditation for listed universities while other institutes which were mention by you still in a doubtful stage.Also becoming a fully fledged university isn't a simple path in Sri Lanka most of the present universities passed various stage such as University College, Affiliated University and Campus before getting fully fledged university status. My opinion is that we should turn away these institute from the list till they have got university status
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Universities list.if we add doubtable institutes (fake universities, diploma mills and Unaccredited Universities )such as SAITM to this article will mislead both readers and editors. Even Degree awarding status (Not to be confused with University status) of some institutes are challenged in the court and there are a lot of ongoing investigations Under Several parliament committees.
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878:"if there isn't an appropriate universal definition for a University we can consider the legal definition of a university that was defined by Parliment of Sri Lanka" Well, that's a ridiculous flawed argument IMHO. If there is no fixed definition for a university, then one cannot pick and choose an arbitrary definition include some universities and exclude some others in the list. All the possible instance in the
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Samankamal actions ! This list needs to include per the University Act No. 16 of 1978 and all the amendments that has followed, state universities, other universities and degree awarding institutes since
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Your behaviour has lowered the quality of this article so much that it has become a joke, no one will take it seriously. It is clear you have joined
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and university title by any government organisation or independent academic body.Also, there is no any evidence to prove "University status" of these institutes.These type of institutes isn't fully fledged universities in
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Knowledge, "University is an institution of higher (or tertiary) education and research which awards academic degrees in various academic disciplines." therefore, a wider scope needs to be considered in this article as do the University Act. You need to move out of your narrow minded form of
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Happy to help! It is right to be cautious about potentially illegal institutions – I have seen fake universities attempt to get themselves onto lists on
Knowledge to make themselves look real. Institutions should be verified by reliable, independent sources both for this reason and to prove
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or the Ocean University met the basic criteria for a university or not. Examining other similar lists they include both state and private/self-funded universities. On this basis it shouldn't necessarily be limited to universities recognised by the
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and another of colleges and specialist institutes recognised as degree awarding bodies. I guess this would satisfy your suggestion of having sub-lists. It can be expanded to include defunct universities and foreign universities, like
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239:Regards--
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