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any of the results came through (I think Mandy Moore was one such person). As for the last three points, if we are to include them they should really be in their own section to separate the pre-election endorsements, which helped towards getting Obama re-elected, from those who said "yay! He won/I
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An endorsement shouldn't depend on when it was made. As long as it clarifies that the person expressing it is indeed in support of the candidate. Why would these people come out and say "Hurray, Obama got re-elected" if they voted Romney, they evidentally voted Obama, and saying so or celebrating
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The people who kept quiet until late on election day did not "endorse" Obama. They may have voted for him, they may have celebrated his win, but the point of this list is that a number of people stuck their necks out ahead of time and said they were for Obama. If someone else played it safe until
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So in summary, you are saying 1 and 4 are certain, but 2 and 3 are not strong enough by themselves, needing additional support? I can see the logic of the first part. For the second part, additional support would usually put the 2/3 people in the 1 category, right?
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Why else would someone celebrate his win? In part to the fact they voted for him. Why would a Romney voter celebrate Obama's win? Binksternet, why are you quashing these peoples input? They're clearly in support of Obama. They count.
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2092:Thank you.
2069:Binksternet
1889:Binksternet
1833:Binksternet
1738:Hugh Hefner
1634:Binksternet
1538:Binksternet
1513:4. To give
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1405:Binksternet
1325:Connotation
2468:Categories
2455:Report bug
2345:Report bug
1938:Instaurare
1872:appearance
1785:1, 4, 5, 7
1730:Ted Nugent
1624:Discussion
1291:References
134:discussion
69:List-class
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1726:Brad Thor
1679:Acalamari
1249:Economics
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217:elections
2444:Cheers.—
2334:Cheers.—
2216:Cheers.—
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1968:Cheers,
1850:unsigned
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