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reigns after x point are recognized by the WWE. Just as the WWF Light
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Because it's owned by a different company now. and anyway, it's not even the same name. It used to be the ECW World
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Late response here, sorry. Thanks for the answer. That makes sense. Perhaps it would be helpful to have a footnote, similar to what we place in discographies to explain what the emdashes represent in the tables. What is obvious to some may not be obvious to others.
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yet we note that with just a simple split in the title history, here, we totally give into it and mark all these different reigns as somewhat unofficial just because the WWE doesn't reocgnize them anymore. Yes, they actually used to recognize them, this is stupid.
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