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But if we do that then we'd have the same problem s before. Koraidon and
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This has been inevitable for a long time. I think the table still works now, depending on screensize (is there a guideline of table width limits we could refer to?), but it should almost certainly be split in some way once gen 10 happens. I just hope it will look alright...
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