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465:: "Section 27 of the Ontario Heritage Act allows municipalities to list or inventory properties of cultural heritage value that are not designated under Part IV or Part V of the Act. These properties are not afforded the same level of protection as a designated property. While a Heritage Permit is not required for alterations to the property, owners are always welcome to seek staff advice. An owner of a "listed" property is required to give Council 60 days notice of their intention to demolish a building (or portion of a building) on the property." 180: 435:
numerous other examples. Based on treatment of local historic site lists in the U.S. and elsewhere, I think that any local registry is pretty obviously merits Knowledge coverage as a list-article. If there is a complete list of the local listings available, I think any editor could list them all out. But the existing system seems good and could be comprehensive and incorporate the Kincardine items, perhaps requiring a new column.
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The CRHP database is likely incomplete. I'm fairly certain (based on a recent pass through the entire database to update these lists) that there are probably a number of heritage designation authorities whose listings are not represented in it. Bruce County and/or its subdivisions may well be one of
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About Kingston, SportingFlyer points us to source mentioning "Kingston's rich history and culture endures and is kept alive by our treasured heritage properties. To give members some perspective, about 120 buildings in Kingston belong on the national register of historic places, and more than 1,000
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Magicpiano has observed there are other local lists left out. CRHP listing doesn't necessarily convey any benefits to a local government, and authority to designate local historic places is already fully delegated to local governments, and we have this Kincardine example, so I suppose there may be
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They say as much on the website, but I can't find anything that shows any other property in Kincardine is on the register after a couple searches. I do note here that Kingston has 120 properties on the national register and over 1,000 on the local register, further emphasizing the Kincardine sites
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Based on defined bounds of the district and Bing satellite view, I would guess there are 50 to 100 buildings in that Market Square Heritage Conservation District, probably each included into the municipal register. Other CRHP listings in Kingston may have several buildings, but there are no other
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I hope we can agree this is simply an editorial question, about whether to include local listings into the existing system of lists, or whether to have separate list-articles for them. About the Kincardine ones, there is sufficient online documentation, including links to the specific town
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resolutions/local laws for each listing, to be sure that this is a legal system, and IMHO it is clear the list of Kincardine listings is a Knowledge-notable topic. Either there will be a separate list-article for them, or they can be included into the Bruce County list-article section.
454:: "At the municipal level, there are two types of designations under the Ontario Heritage Act – Part IV and Part V. Part IV designations refer to individual heritage properties. Part V designations refer to a grouping of heritage properties known as a Heritage Conservation District." 443:
which might have 120 items (it is not numbered and I am not counting), I notice that "Market Square Heritage Conservation District" in Kingston is just one CRHP listing, as a historic district, apparently under Part V of the Ontario Heritage
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What is available for each of the Kincardine places is a lot more than is readily available for Kingston's municipal listings. It seems worthwhile to develop a Knowledge list for the Kincardine ones, separately I guess from
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Okay, this seems like a useful discussion, what to do about locally listed properties that are not explicitly listed in the CRHP database. I may post a notice at
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to be only of things that appear in the CRHP (which is what the lead says), then the Kincardine listings should not appear here until they appear in the CRHP.
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wide historic districts defined, AFAICT. So I presume there are then 700 or so scattered places listed in the municipal register not itemized on CRHP.
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This article is not the right place for that information, as it appears the only Kincardine place on the Canadian Historic Register is here:
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I assume less is available about these, so maybe no one should want to create a list-article itemizing them. Hmm,
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are listed on the city's municipal register and designated under the Ontario Heritage Act." In
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and another one, but am having trouble using the municipal item column. Any tips? Help! --
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should be left off until shown they are on the register:
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here is Kingston's list of them all, 124 pages long
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