465:: "Section 27 of the Ontario Heritage Act allows municipalities to list or inventory properties of cultural heritage value that are not designated under Part IV or Part V of the Act. These properties are not afforded the same level of protection as a designated property. While a Heritage Permit is not required for alterations to the property, owners are always welcome to seek staff advice. An owner of a "listed" property is required to give Council 60 days notice of their intention to demolish a building (or portion of a building) on the property."
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Kincardine is on the register after a couple searches. I do note here that Kingston has 120 properties on the national register and over 1,000 on the local register, further emphasizing the Kincardine sites
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Heritage Conservation District, probably each included into the municipal register. Other CRHP listings in Kingston may have several buildings, but there are no other
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Kincardine listings is a Knowledge-notable topic. Either there will be a separate list-article for them, or they can be included into the Bruce County list-article section.
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Kincardine places is a lot more than is readily available for Kingston's municipal listings. It seems worthwhile to develop a Knowledge list for the Kincardine ones, separately I guess from
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