Talk:List of people from Croatia/Archive 1

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and nation (not afraid, embarrassed, or ashamed of having a national flag that is practically identical to that of the Nazi Ustasha puppet state or of the formation of a giant human swastika during a recent “friendly” soccer match between Italy). If someone vandalizes it (as is seen in this article) you people will go nuts. How come this has not occurred in this article? I would expect this article to have no problems, however this is not the case. This leads me into believing that croats have vandalized this article. Even if it was other nationalities that did this extensive false listing, I can’t believe that croatians would not react to this bogus (like Polo and Haydn as croats). Do you croats actually think that by not removing any of those names that people will think that those individuals (like Haydn) are croatian? LISTEN, PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID!!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE WILL DOUBT AND RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!! YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT ANYONE WHO MENTIONS croatia IS croatian. F.U.C.K.!!!!!!!!!!

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village near Split, for example. And first, John Malkovich said that his family are Croats, and that they come from Ozalj near Karlovac. Ozalj, the old Frankopan town. At last, does anybody believe that a "Serb" from a second American-born generation, would stand on Croatia's side in 1990's? Talking about Tesla, there's something interesting he once said: "I'm a Croat, because Croats and Serbs are one nation." We have to have in mind that he had a picture of Croats and Serbs from Lika. Not the Serbs from Šumadija. Taking Haydn as possible Croat is not without reason. In his works he took motives from Croatian songs. That doesn't proove, but points to that direction.

609:. Well, type Rosović, and you'll find 12 persons, all Croats (according to first names-one of them Hrvoje/Croat) in and around Mošćenićka Draga. Judging from clumsy syntax and pathetic effort to inform the public that "Krajina" (written as "Kranija") is not to be confused with Croatia or anything Croatian- it's pretty obvious that Serbian agitprop had been nosing around. I've seen Rossovich IMDB bio and there was no "Krajina" part. Then I've written in Wiki he was of Croatian ancestry. And, lo and behold- magically, "Krajina" ad appears on the Rossovich bio page. Coincidence. Yeah, in some parallel universe. 2384:" Medjutim, s tekstom o Andricu za staru Enciklopediju stvari su tekle ovako: Tekst je napisao Milan Bogdanovic i poslao ga meni na imprimatur, kao biva, da li ga primam ili ne. Kao ni mnoge druge tekstove, vjerovali vi sad meni ili ne ... ja tekst o Andricu nisam citao. Mislio sam: Neka pise sto hoce, tako cemo to i objaviti. Ionako je bilo iznad moje moci da tu ista diram i ispravljam. Mjesec ili ne znam koliko nakon sto mi je poslao tekst, primim od Milana pismo u kojem mi kaze da je kopiju teksta dao Ivi Andricu na uvid te da on moli da budem ljubazan i da u tekstu nesto izmijenim, a to je: 1489:

were branded by him as "freedom fighters". This is amusingly in line with the popular saying "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". I have therefore removed all such verbiage from the article. Among other things, his includes Avala's note on Pavelić. We should stick to general descriptions here and leave the juicy details for people's articles. If someone wishes to say something about someone, don't make passing remarks in here which may only cause controversy. Instead, click the person's name and write it up, it's easy. --

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by Croatian police under pretext of saving and protecting Nikola's parents belongings. Of course, all this 'honor' of 'restauration' of Nikola's birthplace was just an ocassion for many Croatian nationalists to polish their images as civilised and educated people. Not a single representative of the Serbian orthodox church or living Tesla's relative (William Terbo, Nikola's grand nephew - for example) is consulted or invited as a guest.

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much-ridiculed John to be interested in sophisticated European culture -- until he went to college. In 1976 he dropped out of a drama degree at Illinois State University, moved to Chicago and co-founded with several old friends the Steppenwolf Theatre Company, where he acted in and directed works by classic and modern European authors. It would become one of the most recognised regional groups in the US.

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Dabčević-Kučar): "You think that I do not have any national feelings. You think that I do not consider myself to be a Croat, that I left our country as young proletarian, that the proletarian internationalism had superseded any national feeling from me. I am an internationalist, because we are the communists and we must be internationalists. However, I am also a Croat." (D. Bilandžić,

2002:. Neither are any Americans. Pacino is on List of Italian-Americans, however, and that's where he belongs, just as Malkovich is on List of Croatian-Americans. Every list has to obide by Knowledge policy. Malkovich currently lives in Croatia? Is he a Crotian citizen? If yes, then he should be on this list, but you'll have to give a source to prove that he is. 469:

Ozalj is almost 100% populated with Croats, and all people who´s last name is Malkovic, not Maljkovic are Croats. Even today, there are some relatives of John, and they are not Serbs. They still live in Ozalj in Karlovac county. I would like you to ask if you don´t know for sure, and then write on the internet.

2908:- it shall be known that Ustase (1941) turned to ashes the Serbian orthodox church (where Nikola's father, reverend Milutin served as a priest) and the home where Nikola was born, killed a great number of villagers and destroyed the tombstones/memorials of Nikola's parents (father Milutin and mother Djuka) 3094:

Ante Perkovic, I can’t believe that you responded to my comment the same day I posted it! DUDE, THIS GUY HIMSELF IS AN EXAMPLE OF A croatian FANATIC!!!!!!!!!! YOU’RE ALWAYS CHECKING IF SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY OR PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! DUDE, GET A LIFE. IF THERE IS LIKE A MOVIE OUT AND

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The reason why I know this mess was done by croatians is because if it was not (if it was done by other people) the croatians would have surly removed those individuals who are falsely listed as croats. I know first hand that you people are very (obsessively) proud of your race, history, culture,

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Man, this entire article should be redone (I mean it!)!!!!! There are way too many (ethnic Serb) brackets in this list! Listen you croats, if the person is an ethnic Serb, don’t even bother adding him/her because they are not one of yours. Also, I can’t believe someone had enough guts to add MARCO

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I don't know what it makes you, there is no official definition or rule. You could say that "Person A" is a "Croatian" because of this and this, and I can say they aren't a "Croatian" because of that and that. That's why Wikipedians can't decide these things. We just report what reliable sources have

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last week. I've been formatting and correcting a large number of these kind of lists during the past week. This is neither the first, nor the last - by the time I'm done all of these lists should be in line with Knowledge's policies, which they have to be. If Malkovich described himself as "Croatian"

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For the record, I found by googling that Viktor Bubanj held the rank of general in the WWII partizan army, and once had a barracks named after him in Sarajevo and a grade school in Zagreb, and he was branded by user GeneralPatton as "terrorist". At the same time, Ustasa members such as Jure Francetić

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Igor, and others. Just because you know some Serbs with surname Maljković, it doesn't mean that every family on this world with that surname are Serbs. Have you asked yourself are there any Croats with surname Maljković? Have you ever looked at Croatian phonebook? Maljković are Croatian family from a

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OK, BBC puts him as Serbian, now what guys, BBC is Greater Serbian propaganda too? A Maljkovic christened me and he is Serbian (from Lika), now what. I am taking him off just like Tesla and Pete Maravich. You Croats are going to have to find someone else to steal celebrities from, I suggest you claim

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On the other hand, putting Tesla (the Serb) on the same list with Pavelic (Nazi war criminal who organized and conducted extermination of the Serbs in so-called Independet State of Croatia), or Andric (world renown writer and the Serb) who publicly refused to be marked as Croat along with Mile Budak

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that they are "Croatian". Putting a person who has never been described as being "Croatian" by a reliable source (as opposed to "of Croatian descent" or "Croatian-American") on such a list is original research - calling a person "a Croatian" who has never been called such by anyone except Knowledge.

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Not that this is particularly relevant to the matter at hand, but if you think he must have been a fascist, no, that doesn't really have to be. There's was economic emigration, as well as Communism-related emigration at that time. Anyway, again, the primary source isn't the guy who told something to

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John Malkovich is actually of Serb origin and not of Croatian origin. His last name is of Serb origin and even though he says he's from Croatia, he's not actually a Croat. This hymn reciting was a mistake and he didn't really know what they were asking of him. He admitted that later on in print. BBC

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Even though of Croatian and Scottish descent, Malkovich had a relatively typical Midwestern upbringing in the small Illinois town of Benton, some 300 miles south of Chicago. His father published a conservation magazine and his mother ran the local newspaper. So there was no reason for the chubby and

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those days), and later moved to Venice themselves. The de Polo's still live in Korčula today (my mother happens to be from there so I know for sure), and there's a house that's a small tourist attraction because it's "the birthplace of Marco Polo", but whether the explorer himself was (or the extent

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Nevertheless, Nikola's home was 'restored' - the original building was made of wood, the new one - all brick and concrete. A brook who was running nearby was diverted to run closely to this new house. The house belongs to the Serbian orthodox church and was looted during the secession war (1991-95)

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whose idea of spending his time is to log onto Knowledge under one of his zillion puppet accounts or open proxy addresses and spread his Serbian nationalistic and hateful crap. Basically the guy is just one of those angry-looking unemployed and hairy Serbs living in some ugly Novi Beograd apartment

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There, I've removed the definition. Please do not include people in this list who are not actually Croatians. If we have a list called "List of Croatians", then the people on it must actually be Croatians, not people of other nationalities who are of Croatian descent. Otherwise you're violating the

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I think that it is un necessary to have so many people listed. We a section for "Builders" and half of it is with red links that most people have never heard of. A lot of sections are not very desirable. I think we should just leave the list to the most influential successful people and cut out the

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Sve ono o Miroslavu Filipovicu-Majstorovicu, sve one fantazije o jesenovcu, je četnička propaganda, ako netko več treba da bude mass muderer, onda je tito, sa svim križnim putevima i golim otocima najbolji kandidat o tome. Titov režim i njegovi komunistički teroristi su pobili oko 500.000 Hrvata, a

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2 years ago, John Malkovich gave an interview to croatian magazine, where he gave full information on his background. He said his paternal grandfather came from Ozalj in Western Croatia to USA. John´s father spoke Croatian, and John himself only knows some croatian curses and greetengs. The town of

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Mario Andretti was born in the town of Motovun (1940) in then Italian Istria. He was born with a twin brother, Aldo Andretti. After World War II Istria (which is part of Croatia) passed to Yugoslavia and his family, like many other Italian Istrians, fled in 1948 and spent the next seven years in a

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Andric's etnic/national background was his personal matter - as it is the case among civilised people. Therefore, what he had said about himself, that must be accepted as is - without any discussion, check, or approval. What he was at his birth - that might be claimed only by his parents which are

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policy. It says "Articles may not contain any unpublished theories, data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas; or any new analysis or synthesis of published data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas that serves to advance a position." Putting a person on a "List of Croatians" is saying

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Perhaps we could establish whether these two gentlemen were ever Croatian citizens. If Andretti was a citizen and lived there a couple years before fleeing, I would say include him as a corner case. If his family fled immediately than he really has no connection. I couldn't find any information in

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ChrisO, thanks for extending the introduction, though I doubt that it will help much with handling the abuse of those who consider the mere notion of association with a word involving the letters "C"/"H" and "R" is something abhorrent, and there certainly seem to be enough of those to go around...

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As much as Malkovich values its tradition and way of life, he says Europe is "not a place I take incredibly seriously: after all, it was the homeland of the Inquisition, totalitarianism, genocide and the invention of several bloody crusades". He also has harsh words for its media for what he deems

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These decisions of Croatian tribunal are very doubtful. They are forcefully brought, under pressure from outside the country. That was almost a blackmail. And the whitnesses there were very doubtful. Those whitnesses should be the suspects. What do you expect, when your enemy is a whitness of the

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It is written that Josip Broz is a person of Yugoslav nationality. However, on many occasions he claimed to be a Croat. For instance during his visit in Bregana on the 5th of July 1971. he said to general secretary of the Central Committee of the League of Communists of Croatia at the time (Savka

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Kurjak je dokazani kriminalac, komunistički sin, musliman rođen u Bosni. To što sad živi u Hrvatskoj ništa ne znači, a ionako sad najviše radi po Bosni. Mene vrijeđa to što je na ovom popisu, to je kao da bi netko napisao muhameda attu pod poznate Amerikance, samo zato što je neko vrijeme živio u

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AHM AHM Mario Andretti was born in Italy and he is on the list just because that part of Italy is now Croatian!!!!! We can even add Dennis Rodman because he visited Croatia last summer! Why not add anyone who lived in SFRY after all Croatia was part of it so everyone born in SFRY are connected to

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It occurs to me that a better title for the page would be list of Croatians, because that doesn't imply ethnic nationalism, rather a link with the country, which may or may not be combined with ethnicity. And to avoid any claims of misappropriation, ethnic classification and/or name of political

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seems that he was a Serb so that listing was apparently plain wrong (committed by the anonymous 6x.y.z.w user, I should mention), and the Polo and Haydn entries committed by the same user are also on shakey ground, but using that as an excuse to remove Tesla altogether is just too transparent. --

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Just for the record, I have not been able to confirm anything about this admittal of Malkovich's, it's rather unsurprising to see Serbs and Croats with the same last and/or first names, and it's also entirely unsurprising to see Igor badmouth "us Croats" for whatever. I looked up Maravich and it

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On the list of Croatians there are two people Nikola Tesla and Mirko Norac. There is no need to tell who was Nikola Tesla. Mirko Norac is a war criminal sentenced to the 13 year term and jailed. During the secession war, he was a commanding officer in the Gospic county area where is the Tesla's

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block and blaming the whole world for the misery their shit-hole of a country is in. I guess vandalizing Knowledge and wasting everybody's time is just his way of escaping his miserable reality. Probably masturbates too while waiting for a page to reload after clicking on "Show preview" button.

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And not only that: I remember that back in 1991, Malkovich made a TV spot (actually, it was conceived by Croatian-American artist Nenad Bach) wherein he recited IN CROATIAN first 5-7 lines of Croatian National anthem "Lijepa naša domovino". It was a sign of support for the Croatian struggle for

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Today's idea of Croatdom was developed in the second half of nineteen century and it is meaningless to extend this idea back to the past, on the territories which never were part of any Croatia (Istria, Ragusa), nor people who lived in the past on these territories - ever counted themselves as

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The whole article is written in a highly politically correct manner - not a single word that Tesla was not actually a Croat - rather a Serb. Not a single word of apology (coming form Croatians 'dignitaries') for destruction of everything that holds any memory to this great man - Nikola Tesla.

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actually of Slavic extraction. The theory is also put forward with unfounded claims that because there is a de Polo family in Argentina who speak Croatian, suddenly this is irrefutable evidence that someone who lived as far back as the 13th century could be somehow connected to these Croatian

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Like I said, again, if a person is described as a "Gypsy" or "Roma", which they often are, then they can be on that list. Same thing for here. Anyway, I think we may create a page called "List of Croatian diaspora", that would help with all the other people who haven't been described as just

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Lustig je židov koji sa Hrvatskom, osim mjesta rođenja, nema ništa. On ne zaslužuje da da bude na ovom popisu velikana, isto kao i razne mire furlan, srbkinje koje isto nemaju ništa sa Hrvatskom, i brojni drugi. Lustig ništa nije uradio za Hrvatsku, a mogao bi, nego snima filmove po maltama,

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then I don`t know what are you trying to prove? Maybe you have inferiority complex because there are not enough world famous sportsman that are Croatian so you are laying claims for other people by saying they are Croatian but please heal your problems with your psychiatrist not Knowledge!

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1. the above has usually been inserted by an anonymous IP or a recently-crated account whose "contributions" are mostly to one of Croatia-related articles. 2. another user (usually an anonymous IP) will eventually insert something like "Oh I don't believe this!" or "Are they kidding?" etc.

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That reasoning is just bonkers. Should you interpret the genetic analyses like that, you would find that many Slavic nations of today are "mostly not of Slavic origin". Anyway, the argument that genetics somehow overrule the course of the last two milleniums of history, is specious IMHO.

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birthplace - village of Smiljan. This infamous soldier, the Tudjman's general, is trained as a waiter (this is the only 'military' knowledge and education he posess) and all his military achievements were raped women, killed elderlies and children, looted properties and burned homes.

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with Rodman/SFRY to remove him. The introduction rather clearly delineates who is included. Note also, claiming Istria is "that part of Italy" is rather POV... We can't and shouldn't exclude regions that weren't Croatia forever because then we'd have to exclude them all -- it was all

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And all this is perfectly well described in his article and those that are linked from that article. (If not -- go ahead and add it to those pages.) This is merely a list of people, we can't include pictures and whatnot, it would become extremely cluttered if we started doing that.

1316:. Secondly, Lustig is widely recognized as Croatian, in Croatia and abroad, regardless of his ethnicity/religion, and Furlan is as well (and she is not Serbian, that's a factual error). Personal preference, or lack thereof, simply cannot be a criterion for inclusion in the list. -- 1986:

Then go on the Italian list, and delete Pacino, and the rest of them, if you're not a Serb.Also, why are you only deleting the most known American-Croats???What's that about?John Malkovich has refered to himself as Croat many times, and as far as I know he currently lives in

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But, as to the new Croatian hero, Mirko Norac - he is still a member of so-called Alka Cavaliers Society (Vitesko alkarsko drustvo) which runs every year a medieval type contest celebrating some victory over Turks some time in the 16th century -in the Croatian town of Sinj.

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Both should on the list, what are u kidding me, why take off fifth generation Croats off the list? what kind of a joke is that? I suggest then that u take off all the immigrants to the US (Schwarzenegger, etc.) and sons of immigrants (Pacino, etc.) from the American list.

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policies. You can't decide who is Croatian or not - you can only list people who reliable sources have described as Croatian. Croatian nationals make sense. You can't list Americans who have Croatian grandparents - that's what the Croatian-American list is for.

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Leopold Mandić is from Croatia. His grandparents are Croats from Zakučac. Often the Serbs (and Montenegrins) have this confusion, because of surname Mandić that appear also among Montenegrins in Herceg-Novi area (eventually Leopold Mandić is born in there). See

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Their only personal military 'achievements' were killed children and elderlies, raped women, and looted and burned homes of the Serbs. That's why they are in the Hague (Ademi, Gotovina)or already in jail (Norac). Bobetko died and that way escaped the Hague.

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You are also breaching netiquette by using a language foreign to this section of Knowledge. Sadly enough, at the same time making numerous spelling errors in that language. Please refrain from further embarrassment and cease the abuse of this article.

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I think you mixed Pope Sixtus V, with Lepopold Mandich. Leopold Mandich was Montenergrian. An Ortodox who bacame a Catholic priest. Pope Sixtus V, was from Croatian father, born in Croatian village of Krusevo in Zadar county. His last name was Perich.

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IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT MARADONA IS CROATIAN THEN YOU ARE WRONG-SAY LIKE THIS GREAT GRAND GRAND MOTHER OF MARADONA CALLED XY WAS CROATIAN. IF YOU WANT TO ADD MARADONA CHANGE THE NAME List of Croatians TO List of People Somehow connected to Croatia!

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Taj je kip bio postavljen na sredisnjem gradskom trgu, koji je tada nosio ime Nikole Tesle, a u međuvremenu je preimenovan u Trg Stjepana Radića. No, u siječnju 1992. Krsinićev je spomenik miniran velikom količinom eksploziva tako da se razletio u

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Oh, shut the f*** up. Every possible idiot is turning this page into a phone book and now we even have an idiot who doesn't understand that. How do you know the nationalities of the preople who made a joke out of this page? Are you a mind reader?

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But Jack O'Lantern, what about the case when noone makes a webpage about certain person, but it is known among Croats (in certain Croat family) that certain person is their relative/Croat? Or when only the online phonebook can be the argument?

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You would still have Papua-New-Guinean ancestry and if there was a list of such people, it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable to have you listed. A great-grandmother (as in this case) is not exactly close, but if one of his daughters is called

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I just found some info that some croatian TV once said but never confirmed again that Maradona has roots in Croatia. It was said something like his grand grand grand father from mothers side was Croat. Even if this is true than you can say

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If there is solid documentary evidence, gathered since Hadow's day, that Haydn was of Croatian ancestry, I'd be happy to see this claim restored to the page. But speculation in the Knowledge should labeled as such, not presented as fact.

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POLO or HAYDN on this list. This just goes to show how desperate you people are. Who’s next? Man, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kofi Annan or Abraham Lincoln were listed as croatians! GIVE ME (AND THE REST OF A WORLD) A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!

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So, being born as Italian, lived in Yugoslavia for just three years (1945-8), he became Croatian! Just imagine what unseen glory shines upon Mario - after seven years spent in a displaced persons camp, and finally becoming a Croatian!

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That is entirely inconsequential. When the primary characteristic that seems to make a person known is mass murder, they should be listed as such. When the primary characteristic that makes a person known is being a politician, ditto.

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William H. McNeill, the world renown historian and the Professor Emeritus of History at the University of Chicago: They (Ivo and his mother) went to live with her parents in Visegrad ... The family was Orthodox Christian, i.e.

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Archimedes, Tales, Ptolemay... if you can find Croats that are contemporary with these people, please remove them. Otherwise, don't bring them here to prove the point because it looks like manipulation with the facts. Sneaky!.

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We don't give a damn about consuls and embassadors and all foreign diplomats. You think that we are helding Alka for them? We, Croats, are holding our traditional knight's game for us. Who cares for the rest of the world.

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In the whole its history and existence, Dubrovnik/Ragusa never was a part of any Croatia, nor Ragusans ever counted themselves as Croats. So, Drzic, Gundulic, Boscovic (father Serb, mother Italian) are definitely not

2935:- Ovim centrom se grad Gospić, naselje Smiljan i cijela Hrvatska zele oduziti svom slavnom sugrađaninu Nikoli Tesli - rekao je Milan Kolić, gradonačelnik Gospića koji je na čelu grada bio i tijekom Domovinskog rata. 2967:

Iz diplomatskog kora, međutim, stizu vrlo jasni signali kako će veleposlanici, po svemu sudeći, i ove godine bojkotirati Alku, i to zbog činjenice da je Mirko Norac jos uvijek član VAD-a, premda je osuđen za ratne

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Learning that, the diplomats acredited in the Croatian capital city of Zagreb - sent message to Croatia - we would not again attend the contest if Norac, a war criminal, is a member of the Alka Cavaliers Society.

358:, thanks for your message, I've sent you another one. Check out your user profile and go to the tab "discussion", from there you can read my new message and edit it to put another one for me to read. All the best 2825:

we need another page somewhere where we can add all the names, PEOPLE WITH CROATIAN ANCESTRY, PEOPLE BORN ON THE TERRITORY OF PRESENT-DAY CROATIA, ETC, EVERYONE THAT HAS ANY KIND OF CONNEXION WITH CROATIA!!!

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They often act in an unintelligent or uninformed manner, and may behave in an overtly bigoted manner. The effect is often to obfuscate the debate and prevent a serious discussion of the arguments from each

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Alicia Keys isn't on the "Italian" list, though she may well be on the Italian-Americans list. I've done part of that list and will finish off soon. I know what I said about Malkovich, but technically if a

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I guess you'd have to discuss that with the 6x.y.z.w user who initially added him. As far as I know, he's a known figure from Croatian public life and has no less place on this list than other such people.

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Rick Rossovich actually is Croat, but one of his ancestors was a Serb from Krajina. But this is such a small portion that he can not be considered a Serb. If you were to sum it up he is 6.25% (1/16th) Serb.

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Regardless, they were essentially politicians. We may think that their kind of politics/policies were abhorrent, but that doesn't make the fact that they were politicians any less true or less pertinent.

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The article says that Serbian patriarch Pavle is of Croatian ancestry. I know that majority of Croatian users here would like the whole Solar system to be of Croatian ancestry, but this is way too much!

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About John Kordic, search the net. His father is Ivan and mother is Regina. They are from around Mostar. Only Croats have such surname there. Where did you got the info that he's half-native American?

2911:- in the same town of Gospic in the year of 1993, the monument erected to honor this great man was blown up to pieces and the town square named after Tesla was renamed - which reads in Croatian below: 2492:

The Marco Polo Coat of Arms includes four chickens. In Italian, Polo means chicken or fowl; in Croatian Pilich means chicks or chickens. Accident or coincidence? The Arms are registered in Dalmatia.

851:"This is a list of more or less famous people with Croatian heritage, born in or associated with Croatia or of Croatian ancestry, including both Croats and members of Croatia's national minorities:" 276:

should not be added here in the entry of famous Croatian explorers. The integrity of Knowledge is under scrutiny in such cases where pseudohistorical and poorly argued points are presented as fact.

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HAS NO THING TO DO WITH croatia, BUT JUST HAS SOME INSIGNIFICANT CHARACTER WHO SAYS croatia, THE ENTIRE croatian COMMUNITY WILL GO TO THE THEATRES TO WATCH THAT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!! I SWEAR!!!!!!!!!!

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which reads: "By this center (the Tesla's 'restored' home and the Serbian orthodox church rebulid) town Gospic and entire Croatia wants to pay tribute to their famous fellow citizen Nikola Tesla"

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And also I suggest that the late picks that u've added be on another page, below the NHL players that have actually played in the NHL be a link to another page with NHL picks of Croatian descent.

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is speculated to be Croat by some French scientist apparently amicable towards the Croats in general, based on some Croatian-sounding terms used in his literature? Very stretched to say the least.

605:? This is a complete nonsense, added by some propagandist. There are no Rosović Serbs in "Krajina", and one can very well see this by typing this surname into search window of Cro phonebooks, 2404:

Shortly, Milan Bogdanovic wrote a text of Andric's biography, presented the text copy to Andric. Andric asked Bogdanovic to remove the note saying that he (Ivo) was a man of Croatian lineage.

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Ivo Andric, rodjen u Travniku 10.10.1892. godine, hrvatskog porijekla, zavrsio skole itd.... Moli me da brisem da je hrvatskog porijekla. Na to odgovaram Bogdanovicu (oprostite sto citiram):

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Personally, I think there's too much names here. Many of them are mostly unknown even in Croatia. It had sense putting them here if they are from Croatia, but living in other countries.

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then it does fit the Verifibiality policies with this title, however, do you have a reliable source that he described himself as that? If yes, we can put him up here with that source.

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And again bias, and inability to read the initial paragraph. It is indicative that it seems to be impossible to explain both to Serbian and Croatian ultra-nationalists that the list

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I don't think anyone other than the anonymous user is saying that. They are way overzealous and need to be corrected. If they insist on reverting the page, they will get banned... --

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in the contemporary Croatian. It means the same in the contemporary Serbian language - but my patriotic Croatian feelings tell me that the Croats are more jackasses than the Serbs.

2593:) as the oldest ever known Croat. The only dilemma I have is - where to place him within this list of famous Croatians - Military or Science? Maybe - under both these subsections. 1406:

Well ONE is enough even too much! It reminds me of some idiots in Belgrade which call Milosevic a hero even though he is is responsible for murder not only bosniaks but serbs too.

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I think No. Maybe at most a year but in hell of life running away from revenge because of what fascist Italians did in WWII. On official website there is not a word about Croatia.

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how it's a "lie" before changing his entry here (let alone removing it!), Kurjak certainly seems to be from Croatia even if you wish to insult him for being Bosniak and mafia,

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Very funny. Tito died in 1980 and is the hero of the Yugoslavs. All your propaganda has landed you in poverty about some religion you yourselves dont follow. (March 22nd, 06)

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This time it wasn't just the 6x.y.z.w anonymous user, it was also User:GeneralPatton :( FYI: the ordering is alphabetical, the word "hero" is entirely unsuitable, explain on

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Rossovich (Rosović) family are not the Serbs at all. They are of Montenegrin origin. Rosović's are from a small village on Istria peninsula, in Croatia (though, many of them

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I see that the user from 67.x.y.z has been having a field day with this page. While I can appreciate enthusiasm, some of the edits are on a very slippery slope. For example:

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Let's have a poll - should we maintain a list of Croats (only ethnic Croats) or a list of Croatians (both ethnic Croats and other people from Croatia)? Or both? Or none?! --

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that Haydn was Croatian, and offered only circumstantial evidence. Moreover, a lot of Hadow's "evidence" is utterly subjective and based only on nationalist stereotypes.

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I'm for both sections - therefore Krapina man is the first Croatian general and the first inventor (invented a spiked club used by Croatian Ustashi to smash people's heads)

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Yeah, I had a bad feeling about it given the geographical inconsistency and bad spelling. How perverse. Thank you, I've just submitted the correction to the IMDb staff. --

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As per The Serbian Americans by Jerome Kisslinger, Chelsea House Publishers New York 1990 pages 99-101 John Malkovich is a Serb. The consulting editors for this book were:

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Well, the first think is that chicken in italian is pollo and not "polo". Polo is a Venitian word for "Paul". This simple evidence breaks one of the bases of your theory.

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If while reading this article you happen to stumble accross one of these names (or any other which you feel couldn't possibly be there), pay attention to the following:

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my ethnic background is irrelevant, although I can freely say that I probably have never met either a Croatian or a Serb in my life, short of watching John Malkovich in

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I AM REALLY ANGRY THAT YOU CONSIDER GOTOVINA AND BOBETKO HEROES. BOBETKO I THINK WAS EVEN SENTENCED IN THE HAGUE FOR KILLING SERBIAN PEOPLE! I AM DEEPLY DISSAPOINTED!!!

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I would like to keep it that way, but it seems that the anonymous user just won't give up. I think if we provide the explanatory paragraph that this may placate them. --

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Ovu informaciju, navodi, duguje Ljeposlavu Periniću, "hrvatskom kralju lutaka". Perinić, Hrvat koji je nakon drugog svjetskog rata emigrirao u Argentinu, rođen je 1922..

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For Gervais, see my answer on your page. There's a small group of Croats with surname Gervais. That's why I put him on the list as a person of possible Croat origin.

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is still being added with the dubious name of Marko Polic (there is absolutely no historical recording ever attesting to this name having ever been associated with

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in order to naturalize to the Venetian government. Because there is a house (tourist attraction) dubbed the "birthplace of Marco Polo" and the fact that there is a

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Accrording to the Jutarnji list - a Croatian daily newspaper, Croatia decided to honor great inventor and scientist - Nikola Tesla, the Serb. Nothing wrong, but

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Croats. Applying such nonsense, someone could claim that Archimedes was an Italian, Tales - a Turk, Ptolemay - an Arab, even though that all three were Greeks.--

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said about these people - if they called them "Croatian", then we can call them that too. But if they didn't - we don't have the authority to make that call.

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User 4.249.xxx.xxx is nothing more than another pathetic attempt at wasting everybody's time by Serbian nationalistic crap pusher and retarded puppet master

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were one of the most famous croatian writers. Gundulic is one of the few writers most responsible for stnadardisation of Croatian language. Of course, some

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which is also an improper move (losing page history). Of all the lame ass crap I've seen, the kind which hurts the most is the one ignored for months... --

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was ethnically Croat but willfully became naturalized Serb. I suppose listing both kinds is the best compromise, but I'm not sure if that's the consensus.

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Even if all you said was true, and I'm far from convinced it is esp. the blather at the end, none of that that would preclude his listing on this page. --

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Not only that, but he recently (2003) came to Croatia and commented publically on his two grandparents who emigrated from the country into the States. --

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Croatia wasn't in a secession war. Yugoslavia has dissoluted. But that was a Serbian expansionist war. Croatia defended its independence and existence.

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The Gospic town mayor Milan Kolić, who was mayor in the time of blowing up the monument and renaming the Tesla's Square into Stjepan Radic Square says:

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His article says they fled Yugoslavia and lived in a displaced persons camp. Sounds like a borderline case but he did live in Croatia for a short time.

2155: 914:'s history a bit. His birthplace was part of a modern state (of Italy) and his family was Italian. Perhaps suitable for the corner case section... -- 1707:, Golden marketing, Zagreb, 1999., p. 601.) Therefore, I believe that it should not be written that Josip Broz is a person of Yugoslav nationality. 1503:

How is it better to write that Pavelic was politician when he was ustasha leader? Adolf Hitler was not funny little man even if somebody think so.

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I don't think I removed this... I traced that person's pseudonym that has an article already, and moved the page accordingly, but it needs work. --

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Some victory over Turks? "Some"? Well, die, if you can't live with the fact that Croats had a big victory over Ottomans, which Serbia never had.

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I think I also saw several Croatian Jews listed -- the extent of their naturalization should probably be verified before declaring them Croats.

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Malkovich is Croatian name, and John Malkovich is really a Croat. Who does'nt believe can check the Croatian phonebook, just type 'Malković':

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Again, this is an encyclopedia, not another random Internet forum for everyone to express their views on life, universe, and everything. See

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Pozdravi Ivu Andrica u moje ime, veoma srdacno,i poruci mu, ako mozes, da mu ja jebem hrvatsku majku, brisat cu da je hrvatskog porijekla."

936:. He is suitable for list of Italians because ,I will say again, this is not a list of people connected to Croatia, it clearly says list of 523:

Croatian?? I googled and found some site from Herceg Novi saying he was the son of a Serb... brrr, this looks like another Pandora's box. --

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Just a factual correction: Gotovina and Bobetko were indicted in the Hague, not convicted; Norac was indicted and convicted in Croatia. --

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be included, although it's a bit iffy. Yes, please give me the link for Malkovich and I will restore him myself if it's a good source.

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You are embarrassing yourself as usual, Tesla is not a Vlach surname, it is a plowing tool, Slavic word. See town of Teslić as well. --

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Marietta Marich - The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003 remake and 2006 prequel (not yet released)) Plays Luda Mae (fat woman in trailer)

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Or going on to the person's article and modifying information, deleting the original info into something else, without explaning...

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Regarding origin, person can have origin from more than one nationality. It shouldn't be the problem if person has "more origins".

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but still if my grand mother is from papua new guinea i am not papuan new guinean :) and we are talking about grand grand grand...

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I am the frustrated, arrogant serb (yeah right) deleting them, and I will keep deleting them as soon as I'm clear in not breaking

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That's biased by the very definition. Who determines the importance? You? Me? Random anonymous users? It simply wouldn't work. --

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format has proven to be rather hard to maintain. We could get rid of all those pipe links and keep the page consistent easier. --

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I deleted my previous posts because I was rude. We were just having fun adding all the famous Croats of the world to this list.

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His mother was Slav, her maiden name was Keverich, a not so common name anywhere in the world, but there's Croatian Keverics...

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All the above comes from the introduction and the foreword of The Bridge on the Drina, The University of Chicago Press, 1977--

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Anyone visiting this talk page can now profit from an added bonus. The above is an example of a slightly modified version of

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I just hope that you will not say that he is waving to the children on this picture because we all know that he is waving to

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Anyway, the right thing to do would be to exclude the corner cases from the main list and have them in a separate section. --

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Quot"His IMDb entry, however also has an entry saying that this person was actually a Serb from Krajina". I suppose you mean

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This is what I ment when I wrote about that other group of idiots in previous section. Thanks for a nice illustration.

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I wonder if Gisela Dulko (#1 of Argentina) is of Croatian descent. Dulko doesn't seem like an argentine name. Dujko?

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You seriously need to chill out. It's enough that we have one person who cannot be talked to, we don't need another.

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OK. Now they are both deleted and please don`t add them again because it is misleading to have them on this page.

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before. Same goes for most other places in the world... I've no idea what is meant by the fascism reference... --

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I read and heard that he was half Native-American and that he had a Yugoslavian uncle that played pro-football.

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Some people are deleting names, or deleting them and adding them to the Serbian list, without explaning why...

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Oh, I see this was your first edit so far! I bet you are the one who made all this mess in the first place! --

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Yeah, the overzealous anonymous user is at it again. I've moderated him on several occasions now... *shrug* --

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Actually you were right, Keys was on it. But I removed her. Looks like that page may also need my attention.

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Eh, that anonymous user went through the whole page like a tornado again... among other questionable things,

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Those who are in favor of one or other section - please, sign below and write the section name you are for!

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It says so on many sites, google it... He did kinda look like part Native... although it could be false...

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Knowledge's integrity degrades each time someone adds unfounded claims such as this, claims which are not

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has a page so you can list his religion there, etc, etc. Kindly refrain from further mass-demolition. --

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dead long ago. Nothing is recorded, nothing is known. As per Andric's close friends and contemporaries:

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Josip Elic - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - Plays Bancici, one of the mental patients in the asylum

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I have read on some websites that Pete Maravich was of Croatian descent... does anyone know for sure?

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There was a lot of discussion proving undeniably that Marco Polo was a Croat Marko Pilic or Polic.

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Deal or No Deal contestant Susan? Batkovic from Ohio was on Friday 28 April and will be back Monday

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Lovett F. Edwards, the translator of Andric's books: Dr Ivo Andric is himself a Serb and a Bosnian.

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If Andretti doesn't qualify (parents emigrated after WWII?), that's okay, you don't have to apply

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Then came a bad mouth and a shameless Italian who spoiled the joy of this scientific discovery:

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Croatia and they can be on the list. Also I told you taht your denial of fascism is scaring me!

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The list as given does not have a sigle common criterion applicable to all people listed here:

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For an example- Elizabeth II has family roots in Serbia but she is still English not Serbian.

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was also born in the period between the world wars in Istria, and you haven't removed him. --

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Enes Cengic; "Krleza post mortem", I-III. Svjetlost, Sarajevo, 1990. 2. part, pages 171-172

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ideologers believe that Croatia should be limited only to territory visible from the top of

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http://www.jutarnji.hr/nedjeljni_jutarnji/clanak/art-2006,7,8,memorijalni_kompleks,34822.jl

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No, those people are only accused for crimes. You will have to wait until proces begins. --

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A lot of people have thought that Maury Povich could be of Serbian or Croatian ancestry...

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that references other works but doesn't name them, and it's just one great-grandmother. --

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is neither here nor there. It does not equate to substantial or significant evidence that

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Lapchick - Mihalik - Havlicek - Gulick --- These players could be of Croatian descent...

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That's ok, apology accepted (if that was one). I am in the process of creating the page

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entity that controlled the place a person was from can be added next to each name. --

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need partial rev. We shouldn't censor parts related to alledged war crimes, nor add

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/tennis/features/newsid_2893000/2893189.stm

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Is Sarah of Croat origin? Blašković? If she is, why is she removed from the list?

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Andric, Prelog - Nobel prize winners, explicitly refused to be counted as Croats--

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Gervais is a french-canadian name, what makes u think he is of Croatian descent.

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M.Mark Stolarik - President, The Balch Institute for Ethnic Studies, Philadelphia

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BTW, your CAPS LOCK key works just fine, but try not to test it here anymore. --

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http://www.jutarnji.hr/dogadjaji_dana/clanak/art-2006,7,15,sinjska_alka,36003.jl

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His father Shirley Povich was born in the USA to Jewish parents from Lithuania.

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in order to naturalize to the Venetian government (Dalmatia was mostly ruled by

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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It is shameful to put them on the list along with the Serbs Andric and Tesla!

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rest to shorten it. It will also keep people reading the page. Anybody agree?

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Relax and revert. This is a work of an idle creten and a known puppet master

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on the list. Andric's opinion on Pavelic and Budak is irrelevant here. --

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When Krleza attempted to allign Ivo with Croats - Ivo responded this way

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NO MORE PLACE TO ADD NAMES? WE NEED ANOTHER LIST WITH EVERYONE INCLUDED

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Dzejla Glavovic - Miss Earth 2002 (Bosnia-Herzogvina - later dethroned)

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Tell me, my friend, is this the "theory", you are talking about? : -->

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To answer your question (even though you just deleted it) - Well, the

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Small-time actors shouldn't be on the main list, but add them here!!!

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people born in parts of Illyria/Illyricum before the Great migrations

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He is an NBA Hall of Famer, I wonder if his original name was Lapcic

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A GENERALI GOTOVINA, NORAC I BOBETKO JESU HEROJI, I UVJEK ČE TO BIT!

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Anonymous user? WHO IS anonymous user TO MAKE MESS IN HERE? BAN HIM!

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declared themselves as Croats, before Croatia proclaimed independence

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James F Watts, Chairman, History Department, City College of New York

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Andric was an Ethnic Croat point, Tesla was a fifth generation Croat

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Just for the record, the best information I dug out about this was

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Leonardo da Vinci on top of Marco Polo, Mozart as well as Haydn. --

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Partial rev? Which part is done wrong? I disagree with reverting.

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I think that we all know who was runnig to Argentina after WWII :(

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Why do we need those footnotes on the list of Croatian-Americans

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The Pilic theory claims: POLO-PILIC, MARCO Croatian Adventurer

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1. Rahim Ademi 2. Janko Bobetko 3. Ante Gotovina 4. Mirko Norac

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From the top of the page. If Avala wishes to create a page of

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Following this Pilic-Polic theory, I myself discovered that:

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He was Hitler`s puppet just like Pavelic made Croatia to be.

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GeneralPatton also wrote in commit logs (partly translated):

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As with above information, the arguments for the theory that

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Yes, these soldiers of the Croatian army were war criminals

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David M. Reimers, Professor of History, New York University

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Diplomati u RH zbog Norca će i ove godine bojkotirati Alku

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At the end, the claim given at the beginning of this list

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please add your vote below this line and sign it with ~~~~

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please add your vote below this line and sign it with ~~~~

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of his heritage) from this family is not so certain AFAIK.

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First of all, this is not a list of great men, simply of

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Ladija Vera Manic - Miss International 1975 (Yugoslavia)

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THESE TWO I DUNNO TO WHICH ETHNIC GROUP THEY BELONG TO

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is alleged to have been born on the Croatian island of

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Maradona is not a Croatian player thats for sure!!!!!

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Done now. Should be reasonably uncontroversial now. --

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SOMEONE IS TAKING THEM OFF THE LIST, WHO IS AND WHY?

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English on Benvenuti -did he live in Croatia at all?

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Tanya Pogatchnik - Miss Montana 1996??? (Slovenian?)

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Where did you hear that his mother was from Mostar?

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List of ethnic Croats who are also Croatian citizens

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The bottom section also includes some corner cases:

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WHO'S DELETING THE MOST WELL-KNOWN AMERICAN-CROATS?

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adds a somewhat explanatory twist on this story. --

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Look, even 551:Sveti Leopold Mandić u svetištu Zakučac na Cetini 374:http://www.allstarz.org/~malkovich/financial.html 266:'s wiki entry for further details and evidence in 2822:There's no more space to add names here!!!!!!!! 1657:Modifying peoples' articles.../Deleting names... 1622:Isn't the new czech president of Croat descent? 749:was Croat but you have to provide his name too. 397:independence in war against Serbian aggression. 2651:Michelangelo, Napoleon, etc. as ethnic Croats? 2121:Why are u taking out only the popular names? 1259:Josip Tito yugoslavia 1941-1987 1,172,000 8: 1721:Anyone knows if she is of Croatian descent? 1656: 1326:Redosljed je najbolje napraviti po važnosti! 1922:Jennifer Mikelinich - Miss New York 1983??? 1203:http://users.tyenet.com/kozlich/baroque.htm 2853:We need sources on every X-American page. 2583:gives me an excellent idea to include the 1822:poll: list of Croats or list of Croatians? 205:So, anyway, my point is: tread lightly. -- 3104:The guy who started TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE 1694:Belichick = Belicic / Lapchick = Lapcic? 1524: 603:http://www.us.imdb.com/name/nm0001685/bio 262:migrants in Argentina (see discussion on 2124:Here are some solutions to the problem. 567:Blagoslov novouređene kapelice u Zakučcu 2771:All above comes from a single person??? 2363:If Tesla was a Serb, Andric was a Croat 2328:on the list will have positive view on 2208:, but that is their problem. Even user 1907:Helen Vidovich - Miss Pennsylvania 1954 2700:- 70.239.22.239 - Los Angeles, CA, USA 2371:Nope - Andric said he was not a Croat: 647:with a Bio of German and many Photos. 555:Sv. Leopold Mandić, "ljudima prijatelj 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 1919:Mitriann Popovich - Miss Montana 1972 971:Also, there needs to be consistency. 7: 2712:- 4.249.3.159 - Alexandria, VA, USA 2706:- 70.30.87.185 - Brampton, ON Canada 1452:include just ethnic Croat people. -- 747:grand grand grand father of Maradona 607:http://www.htnet.hr/imenik/fset.html 1811:Special:Contributions/62.203.50.120 1252:po nekima, to čak ide do 1 milijun! 643:Rick Rossovich Unofficial Homepage 237:was born on the Croatian island of 2502:news:cm8n4b$ hsd$ 1@ls219.htnet.hr 2165:Just wanted to add a few remarks: 1916:Angela Janich - Miss Montana 1995 1910:Martha Viducich - Miss Oregon 1980 1790:Fucking hell. This was moved from 408:has him listed as of Serb origin: 24: 2748:. 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