Talk:Lists of atheists/Archive 4

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between an atheist and someone who just doesn't believe in religion. Religion to me is a bureaucracy between man and God that I don't need. But I'm not an atheist, no.' I believe there's some force. If you want to call it God... I don't believe God is a single parent who writes books. I think that the people who think God wrote a book called The Bible are just childish. Religion is so childish. What they're fighting about in the Middle East, it's so childish. These myths, these silly little stories that they believe in fundamentally, that they take over this little space in Jerusalem where one guy flew up to heaven—no, no, this guy performed a sacrifice here a thousand million years ago. It's like, 'Who cares? What does that have to do with spirituality, where you're really trying to get, as a human being and as a soul moving in the universe?' But I do believe in a God, yes."

916:"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our being." 630:(used as a reference for many other atheism entries here) calls her an agnostic. The quote they give (presumably the strongest they could find), “Pierre belonged to no religion and I did not practice any.” also doesn't indicate a strong disbelief in the existence of God. Given the strongly worded preamble of the list, I think the criteria for inclusion should be correspondingly strict: if a person has not explicitly self-identified as an atheist, they should not be included without very good reason. 473:, a quote from him: "My aim is to argue that the universe can come into existence without intervention, and that there is no need to invoke the idea of a Supreme Being in one of its numerous manifestations." So I tried to add him in, but the citation thing seemed complicated, etc., so yeah. I'm not sure if this source is good enough, but if it is, I guess someone else can add him? Also, is the list supposed to be in alphabetical order (by last name of course)? Because a lot of it isn't.... Thanks, 731:

or harmony with nature or humanity, love, or any number of other ideals. As a member of several UU congregations, I have witnessed many members who identified themselves as atheists who nevertheless spoke of "growing into harmony with the Divine," or who wholeheartedly sang songs about God. Speaking of "God," yet being nontheistic in outlook, is a common phenomenon among UUs, and one must be very cautious about assuming what a UU believes based on the theistic language they might use.

31: 204:, I think Gautama Buddha doesn't belong on this list. He denied the existence of a Western type of God, but asserted the existence of other deities (devas). Also, since he did not write anything down himself, and words attributed to him were not written down for several hundreds years after his death, it is difficult to know definitively what his historical views really were on the subject. 754:“We had a memorial service for Isaac a few years back, and I spoke and said at one point, ‘Isaac is up in heaven now.’ It was the funniest thing I could have said to an audience of humanists. I rolled them in the aisles. It was several minutes before order could be restored. And if I should ever die, God forbid, I hope you will say, ‘Kurt is up in heaven now.’ That’s my favorite joke.” 1027:, which was apparently not the case for Djindjic. If there is a verifiable quote of Djindjic referring to himself as an atheist, or otherwise denying the existence of God(s); or if there is substantial other evidence that he was an atheist, he should of course be added back. A quick Google search does not turn up any likely sources, though. 1668:"Now, lest anyone be confused, let me state that Hawking strenuously denies charges that he is an atheist. When he is accused of that he really gets angry and says that such assertions are not true at all. He is an agnostic or deist or something more along those lines. He's certainly not an atheist and not even very sympathetic to atheism." 1417:

moral compass based not on religion, but on humanism—and on an appreciation for the rights of others to think differently, believe differently. Despite the woes of the world, I see that humans have an enormous capacity for good, an enormous capacity to help each other achieve better and richer lives."

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I think there is. We did a show last night about God and religion with Dave Foley, who I love, and we were arguing against this one woman who had a book called I Like Being Catholic. Someone said, 'Oh, boy, a lot of atheists on this panel.' I said, 'I'm not an atheist. There's a really big difference

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definition" of atheism, because there is more than one. Not everyone agrees on what an atheist is, and it's not for Knowledge (XXG) editors to decide for others what one is, but rather to report faithfully the various points of view about what an atheist is. Some believe that anyone who has no belief

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for a moment here! If you continue with this sort of tone, I doubt that we can have a constructive dialog. But, what exactly is the difference? Are the only two options personal God or pantheist? Is there no room for an atheist who is also in awe of the world and finds it wonderful, in the strict

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With that comment and two atheist parents, I'd wager she's also an atheist. But that's not good enough to put her in. From one quote I found, it seems she has a policy against revealing her religious beliefs, so it seems unlikely at present that we'll find a source that definitively identifies her as

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I found - kind of - what you referred to. I'd place good odds she's an atheist who realizes it'll only hurt her career if revealed. Citation information, if you want to add something from this to some article: A cool head and the hottest smoulder in Hollywood. Sunday Times. London (UK): Sep 3, 2006.

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If nobody has any problems with these two I believe they should be added. On one other note I think it is great using the many quotes at the bottom of the page as definitive source of these people beliefs. However, is it really necessary to find a quote for people like Mao Zedong and other communist

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People who say "I don't believe in God" are nontheists, since they reject the concept of a theistic God, along with all of the impersonal and other concepts of God. There is no original research in this. There are competing definitions for "atheist," some of which exclude those who merely disbelieve

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The third quote is probably the best, but in the context of so many of the other things, such as the quote on the main page, that Einstein has said, it is still hard to be certain about Einstein's beliefs. In fact, that, in and of itself, might be the best reason to leave Einstein out. His beliefs

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Anyone familiar with UUs will know that many of them are accustomed to using theistic language symbolically, without themselves being theists. In such cases, the word "God" is taken not to represent a supernatural being as it is in theistic worldviews, but some abstraction, such as supreme goodness,

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The list criteria is not as restrictive as you say. Persons identified as atheists by reliable sources may be listed here. That Curie was previously rejected does not mean that Curie may not be added later if a reliable source is found for her being an atheist. I share your concern about the quality

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No. I lost interest in religion many years ago, when it became evident to me that religion is far less effective in dealing with the world and improving the lives of people than science is, and when I developed a strong aversion to believing things on pure faith. My parents instilled in me a strong

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Good 'eavans, as you British folks say, you have left out the whole Italian Risorgimento movement!! Many of the major figures were atheists (most of the others were anti-CAtaholic, anti-ecclestiacal deistic skeptic types). I have added a few of the more obvious names. There is also a lot missing in

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synonymns). Others say you must believe that God does not exist, or actively campaign against belief in God to be an atheist (the latter appears to be Einstein's point of view). Sure, from a certain point of view, Einstein was an atheist (he believed in no personal God). But he did not call himself

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Earlier this summer she sounded off against stars who thanked God at awards ceremonies. "Some people can be so goofy, especially the ones that say, 'I'd like to thank our Lord Jesus up above'. I'm like, 'For the love of God, keep your mouth shut. That's why the world is so f***** up, because God is

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So Ive been reading that Scarlett Johansson is an Atheist. She said in an interview for the Horse Whisperer that someone had asked her what she was (in reference to her religion) she responded with "ten years old"...Also her parents are Atheists...however I cant find any interviews where she states

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Not all of the quotes in the list are from the persons themselves. Many of them are from reliable sources that identify the persons as atheists. Such quotes can be useful for those using this list as a resource for research, but also help other editors that wish to verify that identification as an

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Vonnegut has a long history of using theistic language, even as he identified himself as an atheist, humanist or freethinker. Take this excerpt from a commencement speech, for example: "You have just heard an atheist thank God not once, but twice. And listen to this: God bless the class of 1974."

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From that quote alone, we cannot definitively identify Atkins as an atheist. Also, quotes from celebatheists cannot be added unless they are attributed to their original source (the magazine, book, newspaper article, etc. in which he was originally quoted). The names are supposed to be divided by

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After reading this discussion and the articles referred to here, I do not think we are justified in identifying Einstein as an atheist. In the Time article, he is quoted as saying that he did not consider himself an atheist. He does say that, from a Jesuit point of view, he is an atheist, but of

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They're a Wiki. It would be a case of the blind leading the blind if we directly cited them. I doubt anyone archives Good Morning America in a way accessible to the public, or HBO specials for that matter. We COULD use that first cite, but I'd only be comfortable with using it if we could get

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From the context of this essay alone, it's clear that Vonnegut is not presenting a serious proof of the existence of God, but is making a comment about how much he appreciates music. The paragraphs immediately preceding and following the imaginary epitaph show that the greatness of music is his

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These quotes clearly proves that Einstein was an agnostic; he was not an atheist. It is not enough for someone to simply say they don't believe in God in order to identify them as an atheist, since they might be an agnostic. In the List of atheist, the rules are strict. We shouldn't be in the

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Finally, there is the matter of Vonnegut's organizational affiliations, which belies the allegations about his latter-day conversion to God-belief. Until his death, Vonnegut was the honorary president of the American Humanist Association (AHA), an organization that promotes a naturalistic and

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Why was this statement of Vonnegut's so funny to himself and his audience? It is because, as humanists, they do not believe in an afterlife, or in a God who sends people to heaven. When Vonnegut speaks of heaven or God, he does so with a wink. He speaks of God figuratively, ironically, or for

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for Knowledge (XXG). An article from a reputable newspaper or magazine would be a good source, or an article found on CNN.com or similar reputable news website. Biographies are also a good place to look. NNDB's vetting process is not as reliable as that used by more mainstream news sources.

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point of view. He says "you may call me an agnostic," and explicitly calls himself an agnostic elsewhere. At most, I think we could call him a sort of agnostic deist, though I'm not comfortable even calling him a deist, since he was not entirely clear on what he meant by the word "God."

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God? Einstein didn't believe in a personal god. That is not good enough to call Einstein an atheist. You said 'the quote you suggest, and the very reference that you cite for it, are of doubtful validity'. I can show you many sources. Einstein clearly said that he was not an atheist.

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This too, is problematic. He first says, that he is an atheist from a certain standpoint; specifically that of believing in a "personal God". However, he does not specifically avow a belief in a "non-personal God" (whatevr that would be). This is something that you are

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Removed Stephen Hawking - although many people imagine he must be an atheist, publicly he is deliberately equivocal on the point. When pressed he has said 'I don't believe in a personal God', but he can believe in a God as the embodiment of the laws of physics. -

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If Vonnegut had really renounced his atheism and become a God-believer, he most probably would have ended his affiliation with these organizations. His continued membership and prominent roles in these organizations is a strong testament to his continued atheism.

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The 2004 Vanity Fair article was pretty good. I don't recall what it had to say on Hawking being an atheist, but I may still have the article around somewhere. The general view that Hawking is a deist, with several quotes and references can be found on the

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The Lenin quote would be good for identifying Lenin as an atheist, but it has to be traced to a reliable source. The quote about Darwin does not identify him as an atheist. Besides, Darwin himself said he was an agnostic, not an atheist (see the quote in

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Third, as per the definition on the atheism page, atheism is " the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods or rejects theism. When defined more broadly, atheism is the absence of belief in deities, alternatively called nontheism." (from the

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topic. The epitaph is a literary device used to express his point about music, not a sincere profession of belief in God. Later in this same essay Vonnegut says "And by the grace of God, or whatever, I am not an alcoholic..." The flippant addition of the

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This is the same quote that you gave in your edit summary, that I already noted was of questionable authenticity, as argued by the very source you gave. READ that source. Simply repeating the same quote doesn't make any more valid than it was before.

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I'm not convinced Gautama Buddha belongs in this list. Even if he denied the existence of the Western conception of God, it appears that he believed that other deities were real. I've solicited opinions from editors more familiar with Buddhism here:

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Right, if justified by a reputable source, by all means she should be added back. But I have been unable to find anything reliably indicating that she considered herself an atheist, or was otherwise known to be one. The article about her at the

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should be included, but is controversial: Wallace Stevens. Just read the damned poetry carefully enough and you'll find that rejection of God and acceptance of life and art as substiute (niethzean influence is obvious) is the central

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On these lists, it is usually presumed that all those listed are notable, so such a name change shouldn't be necessary. There are some lists that include the "notable" qualifier in the title, but that is not the general practice.

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Lovely, thank you for changing the link--how about the reference from "Hindusim Today" to "East Bay Express, April 30 2003"? I would do it, but I can't find the reflist. And then I'll shut up. The page is really cool, btw.

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essay is a word-for-word recycling of a phrase he used in an address to members of the American Humanist Association for a memorial service for fellow humanist Isaac Asimov--an address of which he spoke in his latest book,

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On that page, Nicholson is reported as saying "I don't believe in God now..." That's not enough to be sure he's an atheist. Find a reliable source that identifies him as an atheist, and he'd be a fine addition to the list.

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are complex, and have been variously dissected to argue that he held every point of view on the continuum from deely religious to completely atheist. Perhaps other people will have other quotes to include this debate?

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is substantiated by many quotes and secondary sources throughout his career, and this single figurative paragraph from an essay is hardly indicitive of some sort of dramatic turnaround and embracement of theism.

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an atheist, and he specifically rejected the label for himself. That's why it's inappropriate to call him one in this list, as much as I'd like to see such a great scientist and humanitarian listed here.

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Perhaps it's a delicate subject. Her mother comes from a Jewish family and her father Karsten is a Dane, although both are atheists by Johannson's account. She celebrates both Christmas and Hanukkah.

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Since the term atheist is not defined clearly anyway, (weather a person is mean, which believes that there is certainly no god, or that he is just not necessary) I suggest that you add him again

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And I'm not sure how to do it myself. I am the author of the article that is referenced there, and the link is actually to a (badly edited) reprint of the original article, which can be found

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I read in Vanity Fair that Hawking was an Atheist-I'm the one who added him in April 2005. I thought that qualified as evidence. Seriously, is there any evidence to the contrary? --

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will be violated. The correct definition of nontheist is someone who rejects the concept of theistic God. Thus, people who say "I don't believe in God" must be listed on this list.

1401:“Darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species bear no relation to one another, except by chance, and that they were created by God , and hence immutable.” 1042:

This series (available on youtube) identifies Arthur Miller, Colin McGinn and Steven Weinberg as atheists. McGinn self-identifies as an 'anti-theist' in addition to an atheist.

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I have taken the liberty of moving discussion from the list of rejected people to the main talk page. I believe this is a more appropriate spot for it. See two sections below.

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Nontheism is not recorded in notable dictionaries as of 2007. Thus, only those people who have identified themselves as a nontheist should be included on that list. Otherwise,

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All of those (except Bruce Lee, I think) have been on the list at some point. The problem was that no reliable sources as yet have been found identifying them as atheists.

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page, this still makes his beliefs consistent with atheism. Don't forget that terms evolve over time, and today's usage of the term is broader than it was 50 years ago.

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I have added several people on List of atheists. Several people who clearly said that they don't believe in God were listed on List of nontheists. That's problematic.

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atheist has actually been made in the source cited. I'm not sure how one could identify someone as an atheist by their actions, and doing so would probably constitute

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He was also a member of the Council for Secular Humanism's International Academy of Humanism, which promotes the same naturalistic, nontheistic lifestance as AHA.

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I'm a big Bill Maher fan and an atheist myself, but in the interest of accuracy and integrity I think his name should definately be removed from the list.

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What about Angelina Jolie, Bill Gates, Bruce Lee, Larry Flynt, Asia Carrera? I'm sure that there are much more famous people who are not in this article

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In a 2002 article by The Onion AV Club titled "Is There A God?" Maher was one of many celebrities asked the title question. His response is as follows:

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Second, the quote you suggest, and the very reference that you cite for it, are of doubtful validity. As it says clearly here on the page you provided:

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Using this source to conclude that Vonnegut sincerely believed in a God, and was therefore not an atheist is, I believe, based on an an overly literal

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As a "List of atheists" I don't see myself or anyone I know on there. Perhaps the page could be more specific with the qualifier famous or notable.--

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primary occupation, then alphabetized, but not everyone who adds a name has adhered to this. Help alphabetizing would be much appreciated.

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I added Billy Joel, the well known American musical artist. He's mentioned being an atheist a few times in interviews and in his lyrics.

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Unfortunately, I could not turn up any reliable sources identifying Guth, Gould or Krauss as atheists. Perhaps you'll have better luck.

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I think some of them are atheists. Here, a reliable source is needed. They should be identifed as an atheist by a reliable source.

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in God. That's why those who say "I don't believe in God" aren't to be listed here unless a reliable source calls them an atheist.

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Clearly, Vonnegut was prone to speaking of God as if he actually believed in him, even though he identified himself as an atheist.

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Edit: In addition John Lennon should be a part of this list under musicians. He also stated in his lyrics that he was an atheist.

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Hello Scott. Those first two sources are personal websites. Those aren't acceptable for a Knowledge (XXG) article. Please review

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The word nontheism is not recorded in notable dictionaries as of 2007. There is a problem. I don't want discussions right now.

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Einstein was not an atheist. He didn't believe in a personal God. However, he never clearly said anything about his views on

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someone to go on the record and say "Yes, I have read the original article and can certify that the quote is accurate."

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I didn’t understand the rule properly. I joined Knowledge (XXG) in July, 2007. That’s why I made the error. Thank you.

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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC

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of the About.com source, and would not object to removing her unless and until something more definitive is found.

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I know for a fact that he’s atheist. I keep adding him to the list and it gets removed every time. Here’s a link:

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there, but then someone else removed it because it didn't have source. I was googling and I found a source here:

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Zoran Djindjic (1952-2003) - Serbian philosopher, politician, statesman and former Prime Minister, assasinated.

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Also to be fair, here is a far better human that could be added to the list, notable physicist Kip Thorne:

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Yeah, I just came across something that said he prefered to be called agnostic. The source provided at the

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Here's another example, spoken by Vonnegut during an appearance on The Daily Show in support of his book

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shows that Vonnegut speaks of "God" figuratively, but does not commit himself to genuine belief in God.

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I think the name of some notable atheists are missing. Some notable atheists who are missing from the

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Heh, you don't want much do you?! No prob, my colleague SwitChar has taken care of that... Cheers,

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Always a pleasure to help. Have you written any other articles which might be of use, perchance? ~

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I will take a look at those tapes and add some names as I have time. Thanks for bringing this up.

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nontheistic lifestance (humanism), and whose members consider themselves atheists or agnostics.

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I know that Arthur Miller is not included in this list, so I suggest that he should be added.

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without examining the context provided by other sources. Vonnegut's self-identification as an

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Fair enough, I was unaware about the citing of the personal websites, my apologies. Thanks.--

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Not having or involving a belief in God, esp. as a being who reveals himself to humanity."

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were on the list. Now, his name is removed, and can't find the reason why? All the best

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Even so, a source is needed. I removed Lennon from that category until a source is found.

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I found both quotes on a few websites, so they look legit. I think he should be added.

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first of all, excuse my english: question: according to "List of Atheists" from 2005,

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sense of inspiring wonder (see Dawkins' discussion of this in regards to Einstein)?

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business of calling people atheists when they reject that label for themselves.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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page not on my personal talk page. I will move the entire discussion there.

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it, she very private about it.....does anyone know where to find something?

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who is widely (but not universally) credited as the inventor of the laser.

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Well he almost definitely was one, but is there a good enough source?

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Just thought I'd throw this out there: Bill Maher isn't an atheist.

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I can't find anything either. Found some nice pictures, though. :-)

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http://www.theonionavclub.com/feature/index.php?issue=3837&f=1

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http://www.celebatheists.com/index.php?title=Peter_William_Atkins

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In my opinion, the songs God and Imagine qualifies as sources..

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essay, and illustrative of one of the pitfalls of interpreting

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I am moving this from my talk page to here, where it belongs:

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leaders whose actions spoke louder than any quote. Thanks. --

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list, and there has been no discussion about re-adding her.

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http://www.celebatheists.com/index.php?title=Jodie_Foster

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does not appear to satisfy the article's definition of

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to get an idea of what sort of sources are acceptable.

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Hawking is most likely a deist, so removed again. --

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Be my guest. Move the entry and this comment to the

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A person who is not a theist." Also: "non-theistic,

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Edhubbard, do you understand the difference between

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The phrase "f I should ever die, God forbid" in the

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I will discuss later. 828:Three things: First, this should be on the 188:Talk:Buddhism#Was Gautama Buddha an atheist 782:That last example of divine engineering (" 523:http://www.nndb.com/people/722/000022656/ 424:http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Atheists 1688:Druac Blaise 05:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC) 1674:Druac Blaise 05:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC) 969:course, the Jesuit point of view is not 422:Knowledge (XXG) has him in other lists, 1680:This doesn't prove that there is no God 982:in God is an atheist (which would make 894:Read the following quotes of Einstein: 818:. Please see: einsteinandreligion.com. 1591:The article can be found online here: 667:Response concerning Vonnegut's atheism 284:Well let's start looking for sources! 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 232:Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 7: 595:biography at womenshistory.about.com 1099:other areas. I'll mention one name 1064:can someone add him i do know how 519:This website says he's an atheist: 656:I am making a change based on this 24: 1682:, only that God is not necessary. 153:focusing solely on your career'." 977:It is not accurate to refer to " 875:WTF!!! How about thinking about 628:Freedom From Religion Foundation 382:surely belongs on this list. - 29: 550:List of atheist Nobel laureates 544:List of atheist Nobel laureates 269:Case Western Reserve University 1716:18:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 1286:07:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC) 1273:21:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC) 1262:18:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 1225:21:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 1192:05:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC) 1171:04:09, 11 September 2007 (UTC) 1078:) 04:46, August 22, 2007 (UTC) 768:(the same book from which the 599:Talk:List of atheists/Rejected 215:Some notable names are missing 114:are both possible candidates. 1: 1154:13:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC) 1141:21:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 1130:08:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC) 1109:11:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC) 200:After reading the discussion 1569:15:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC) 1548:11:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 1502:03:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 1491:01:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 1477:21:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 1467:13:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC) 1429:02:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC) 642:For more on this topic, see 455:14:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC) 387:00:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC) 1380:08:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC) 1338:07:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC) 1328:19:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 1317:13:38, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 1307:10:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 1294:Footnote 164 needs changing 1114:From that list to this list 1088:05:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 1054:02:19, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 372:06:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 359:06:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 345:06:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC) 294:Muller is in. 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