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271:"Hypergiants should not be confused with luminous blue variables. A hypergiant is classified as such because of its size and mass loss rate, whereas a luminous blue variable is thought to be a massive blue supergiant going through an evolutionary phase where it loses a large amount of mass." - page on Hypergiants. "Luminous blue variables...are very bright, blue, hypergiant variable stars" - LBV I don't have any expertise in the area to correct it, but this seems a blatant contradiction that would be worth bringing up.
734:@Skinsmoke - agree that all astronomy content omits the word "star" - some others when dealing with a more general audience use "star" but it is more as a descriptor appended to a title rather than titular itself - hence "Luminous Blue Variable star" (note capitalisation absence of last word) - given that our article will have the word "star" in the first sentence and lots of other immediately obvious references that it is one, I don't think omitting the word "star" in the title will confuse anyone......
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