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1231:. B) The short-form names like "M1131", etc., often stand alone and are always capitalized, and so are proper names for WP purposes. C) The descriptive phrases like "edical vacuation ehicle" also often stand alone and are used mostly as generic vehicle class descriptors/labels, and often not capitalized when used this way. D) However, some publications (especially the governmental ones): D1) have a habit of capitalizing every single term of this sort in every circumstance, a form of capitalization-for-signification which WP 298: 346: 282: 250: 314: 266: 22: 135: 207: 196: 185: 93: 53: 174: 163: 1332: 1226:
is at play here; we already know that various military writers like to over-capitalize this sort of stuff (basically any military-specific term of any kind) in specialist publications, but WP doesn't write like that, in this topic area or any other. In looking through sources on, e.g., Google
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Scholar, what I notice are: A) The fully capitalized versions are mostly found in official governmentese publications from the military itself or from the parent goverment, or in contractor and related materials that are
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Comment: Not sure why these articles even exist, some are quite poorly sourced or sourced only to the US Army (primary source) and offer little encyclopedic information beyond the parent
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When using numerical model designation, the word following the designation should be left uncapitalized (for example, 'M16 rifle' or 'M109 howitzer') unless it is a proper noun.
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which applies to capitalisation when writing article text, as opposed to here were we are dicussing capitalization used by entities off-wiki in naming something.
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is a similar situation. The vehicle is replacing the earlier model one for one, but there are not enough changes to justify two articles.
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Oppose, sounds like a variant? Add a variants section for the double hull type & use a redirect.
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does in fact say that proper names should be capitalised, and these are proper names. Also, I swear
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is one of the most over-applied policies! (Probably actually not, but you get the point.)
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You say that "Even MILMOS isn't in favor of this kind of over-capitalization", yet
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Whoops, missed the last bit about the M1135; I agree that that should be moved to
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with other articles and previous RMs. Even MILMOS (almost entirely authored by
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These are not proper names. They are vehicle type descriptions. โ€”โ โ€Šโ 
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to all, they are proper names, proper names should be capitalised.
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to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below.
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