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that is the problem though. I disagree that it gives support to baraminology (something I actually only learned about earlier today, on wikipedia too!), and don't see why that should be included at all. Though I agree that a taxonomic description would be useful. Maybe move it from the intro, though what's there would be short. I guess I'll copy some of this information to the
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As there are two species, it should be a compare/contrast. Right now it is more a description. I understand that there is only one species alive today, but the other should be mentioned. Dealing with ungailiness is simply a matter of writing well. I suppose its lack of sources on the extinct species
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The problem is that the information given about the genus is based on one species. The fact is that the information on this page seems to be mostly about the
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I'm sorry for not providing sources, it would just be hard if searching bilby to figure out whether they refer to the genus of the species without individually checking each one. So then I agree, Macrotis would be a better name. I'm not quite sure how to make all the redirects though.
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modernise it's economy and tend away from unsustainable agriculture in recently deforested tracts of land. Australia is the 224th most densely, or 6th least densely populated country in the world, that it should have so many animals on the path to extinction is atrocious.
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