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There are some minor problems here... it wasn't a "30.30 air rifle" but I'm not sure what kind of weapon he was raising when shot. And the biggest problem is the uncited claim that his ashes being lost in the post was a myth and that his ashes were spread by his family in
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Because everything in the Lead should also be in the article. The Lead is a short summary (in three paragraphs) that gives a reflection of the whole thing. Anything that is in the Lead that is not in the article is frowned upon by the powers that be. You are right though, the Lead should be
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I added this, using IMDb as a reference source. The information on the IMDb website appeared in the "trivia" section which is a compilation of user-provided trivia. By viewing the actual scene from the film, it is clearly Mal carrying the upright bass in the
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I have no idea where this photo came from, other than a tag accompanying it saying it is from 1968. It may be licensed, I really don't know. There aren't a lot of photos of Mal Evans out there (except for dark and blurry shots of him standing behind The
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I have seen it mentioned a few times that it was an air rifle. Also: "Hoernie struggled with Evans, but Evans (being much stronger) held onto the weapon." Who would "struggle" with a pistol that was in Mal's big hands? It's just not
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Hey, I'm reassessing this article for GA sweeps, where we double-check old GAs and make sure they're good. After reading through this, I don't see any reason why this should not still be a GA, so keep up the good work.
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I think it needs a bit more fixing. The main source cited in that section—the Miles book—says Evans was holding a 30.30. It doesn't say anything about it being an air rifle. It does say the weapon was unloaded. —
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1151:References
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1660:this tool
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1586:Mal Evans
1406:Wizardman
1118:His death
1055:Whom him?
960:Yesterday
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467:). See:
264:Biography
209:Musicians
204:Biography
133:Main Page
27:Mal Evans
1800:Cheers.—
1666:Cheers.—
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549:Project
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