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P.S. - In both articles, I emphasized that the Times Square Church is maintaining the theatre in its original state. A lot of people seem to be worried that an architectural landmark will be altered. I wrote some sentences in both articles to ease those anxieties. Perhaps in the future, when economic
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I believe they should remain separate articles. Markhh, you have a valid point that there is a some duplication in the articles. I would be agreeable to trimming some of that. I have such an interest in the theatre that perhaps I was a little too overzealous in my rewriting of the articles. Feel free
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