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990:"any Indian woman marrying an Indian of any other tribe, band or body shall cease to be a member of the tribe, band or body to which she formerly belonged, and become a member of the tribe, band or body of which her husband is a member, and the children, issue of this marriage, shall belong to their father's tribe only.") –
978:, which remained in place until 1985. There's only so many ways to state that. (Carlson page 58 gives "If any woman married a non-Indian – and that could be a non-status or Metis man – she and her children and descendants would lose their treaty rights, including the right to live on a reserve." Also,
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Canadian indigenous legal status. I tried rewording this and including hyperlinks to clarify some of the unique terminology. What are your thoughts? I was toying with the idea of combining the two sentences about Indian women marrying out of their tribe,
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provides translations between the primary language used in the legal proceeding and the preferred language(s) of participants, to ensure that they understand and can fully participate in the proceedings, which is a fundamental rule of justice. (That she held this position suggests she had high degree
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have a caption, but I feel that can be waived in the case of an infobox image of the article subject where no further details of the image are known. However, if you can determine any details – the year of the photo, where it was taken or the photographer – then you could include that in a caption.
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I reworded some of Ottawa
Journal and the Saskatchewan Star-Phoenix sections. I do not know what a court interpreter is. If there is a synonym, that's fine. Do you have any suggestions for rewording "Indian women married to non-Indians"? Perhaps the words, indigenous or Native could be used in this
885:"In the Calgary Herald source, it says "Davis worked in Fort Macleod as a court interpreter." I think if "interpreter" was reworded in the Knowledge (XXG) article, this could pass limited wording. The part about Davis's quilts are in a separate paragraph above the Fort Macleod part, and looks fine.
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Reading further, I added "MillerWomen" for this. Pages 3, 9 states that she was a faculty member in the Dept of Native
American Studies, U of L, in 1987. On page 192, it says she was ass. prof of Native American studies at U of L for several years, in the field of politics and economic
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The Google Books synopsis describes it as an "oral autobiography" and it seems to be told as a series of first-person accounts. Will assume that it was properly fact-checked. The parts used for the article are neutral and non-controversial. I added page numbers as I checked the
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I think the only unsourced statement is that her successor at RCC was Roy Weasel Fat. If you can't find a reliable source for that, the easiest thing would be to remove it (I don't especially like to see something like that which is only present in the infobox).
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The original source was: “Born Marie
Smallface on the Cranston Alberta Blood reserve she was one of seven children who was encouraged too attend school in Cardson. “I owe much to my parents and an Anglican Indian priest who thought I might do well,” she
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The subject is a contributor to this book of articles, so it's a primary source. It appears to be reliable, however, and is not used for anything controversial, so appears to be acceptable. (I edited the citation to include her as a "with ..." under
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I see where the source says she became an assistant professor at U of L in 1983, but not that she was an assistant professor of Native
American studies in politics and economic development. It doesn't seem to be in "HeraldObit" either.
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I think it's better now. I would suggest a slight reword of "attended school in
Cardston at the suggestion of an Anglican Indian priest." But, if you think this would fall under limited wording, then I think it'd be fine.
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The subject worked for the
University of Lethbridge, so this is a primary source. However, it is reliable and is only used for the positions and years she worked there, and the year of her birth, so nothing
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It doesn't make sense to have a preparatory meeting in 1974 if the conference is in 1972. The sources note that the conference was held in 1975 with planning beginning in 1972; I adjusted this accordingly.
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I'm inferring what the original source was, and this is substantially different from what was in the article before. I'd probably have simplified it further, but it seems good enough for GA. –
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Thank you so much for your review. I am thrilled that you have experience with
Canadian topics. Per your suggestions, I sourced her successor, switched the thesis url to the PDF, added the
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I think that could work, as long as the sentence structure doesn't look identical. I think non-Indians would need to be reworded the most, but Native can work in this sentence as well. --
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text and img caption, and added (from a new source) a bit about the recent growth of a program she had initiated. I personally prefer to include the number (or hyperlink if they meet
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Thanks for sourcing Roy Weasel Fat. The rest doesn't affect the GA review. I think it's okay to briefly include the memorial service which took place on the reservation.
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I did a bit more copy edit, tidying of references and the endnote. I came across a lot of copyvio issues while checking the sources, and paraphrased as needed. –
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Women of the First Nations: Power, Wisdom, and Strength
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