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Hello I noticed that you have revirted a edit that I have recently made. Maybe we shouldn't look at expounding the header and introduction of the page to highlighting mater's of merit that are relivent to the culture that is reading it. This is the buitiful way the
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This is why we are on the he talk page, for descision,I think that it is unnecessary to threaten banning. Please explain that why under the page of vertue, religious information is not supported in the way that you are asking on this religious page that is of similar nature
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