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Christian connection in modern use. Also, chalices are generally not crystal and are typically opaque and ornate, with a long stem and other detail that can be only be done through metalworking. Most importantly there are several glasses of various sizes, but ostensibly the same type, in front of the Merovingian as well as Persephone. There are two large glasses of apparently identical size in front of both as well. If the writers wanted to give a more direct implication of Merv's self-importance or a Grail connection, there may have been one single metal chalice to imply a Grail connection and not several glasses. It seems that the selection of Merv's name is the implication that the character feels his actions (and thus his causes) are of supreme importance--and a Frankish king's appellation would be most appropriate for this distinction. From there, however, there is too little in the scene to suggest a Grail connection per se, Although the historical connection is appropriate, going further in the introspection of the wine glasses appears to be original research.
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Machines, or The Merovingian himself. "Merovingians" ally themselves with him for a number of reasons, some of them feel more sympathy towards "exiles" and may feel themselves outcast, rebellious, renegades, outlaws, the underdog (Merovingians are the minority in Matrix Online), etc. Also suffice it to say that The Merovingian is not as much of a cartoonlike Hobbesean villain as one would suspect. He's a bit more complex than that. I may post more on this later. "The Matrix Online" Wiki article has some decent summations of the game thus far for those who wish to catch up on some of the storyline.
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There may be some confirmation to the most recent Trivia posting (last bullet point). The
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