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3092:- ZDF - Makes a claim about the percieved resemblance of the tattoo to the symbol of the oragnization. Same argument as Hakan Tas. Then the author makes a claim about supposed backlash for allegedly spreading the symbol. The proof of this backalsh being commentary for 1 political scientist and 1 tweet from 1 twitter user that shares the same opinions as the author and as Harkan Tas. This is all anecdotal. The author then goes off on a tangent about Ozil being a Turkish nationalist and his friendship with Recep Erdogan. Being a Turkish nationalist does not necessarily mean he is affliated with this ogranization. Its a nonsensical argument. Similarly, being friends with Recep Erdogan does not mean Ozil is affliated with this organization. Ozil is also friends with other political figures such as Angela Merkel, who has the level of affliation with Grey Wolves that Erdogan does (i.e., none). This article offers nothing of merit. 1928:, not allowing me to disengage properly and focus on the content. I kindly suggest you to move on: I am only talking about the sources. Please put your efforts on finding a Knowledge (XXG)-standard-reliable source where Ozil states an ethnicity of his, apart from his statements regarding being a German and Turkish. So far, I couldn't find any reliable sources supporting in terms of any standards. I think you conceptualise that all these discussions are related to nationalists; but, no, I am afraid to reiterate this again: I see them they are only related to sources, where I believe you, honourable editor, defend the presence of a very unreliable set of sources in Knowledge (XXG) - kind of sources Knowledge (XXG) discourages and disallows to use- at all costs for one reason or another; and I believe I defend a very reliable set of sources - kind of sources Knowledge (XXG) encourages and allows to use. Plain and simple. 1843:. I think this interpretation of yours is a very strained and far-fetched one. I think I literally implied thereat that the two sources' claims could not coexist at the same time because they were 180 degrees opposite to each other (yet one is low-quality in terms of any standards, and the other one is high quality and exact due to the person's own words). If I would write there: "he will always be Turkish" as my comment, you could be right in your interpretation. As a dual-heritage person, I must again deny your assumptions and the line of reasoning of yours. After disengaging the topic, I will present the research outcomes of mine; hence the 3216:
wording in this article explicitly states that the 3 crescent moons are symbols of the grey wolves despite not being so, without any mention of the MHP whatsoever. Its disingenuous and misleading in the extreme. And saying sources are of very high quality is subjective. There are no Wiki archives indicating that these sources have been deemed reliable or of high quality, only that they havent deemed unreliable as of yet. And given that all of them falsely claimed that the 3 crescent exist in an official logo of the Grey Wolves despite not being so, it should be fairly easy to classify them as unreliable.
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questionable. These articles primarily discuss the history of the organization or go off on tangents about Ozils friendship with Recep Erdogan, all of which is irrelevant to determining whether he is actually associated with this organization. The only argument presented is a claim by a left wing MP (with a political agenda of his own) that Ozil is allegedly a member based on the resemblance of a tattoo. Also, given the amount of xenophobia and racism this player has been subjected to in Germany, German media outlets cant necessarily be considered impartial when it comes to him.
1702:. Your actions of removal of anything having to do with Özil's Kurdish past are identical to other Turkish nationalists. Your actions on other pages (seen after this edit) imply a solid understanding of Turkish nationalism. If you're not a Turkish nationalist, you're doing a great job of impersonating one. Whether you are or are not a Turkish nationalist, removal of the content that links the subject to a Kurdish heritage based on a statement that does not logically exclude Kurdish heritage is inappropriate. I cannot change the edit summary, but the action is not appropriate. 2787: 2697: 2470: 234: 2870: 2254: 2103: 600: 3095:- Deustchlandfuk - Makes a claim about the percieved resemblance of the tattoo to the symbol of the oragnization. Same argument as Hakan Tas. Then the author writes about the history of the Greys Wolves as an organization and talks about how Erdogan serves Turkish nationalism. This article is barely about Ozil at all and most likely the worst source of the 4 (even though I havent looked a the contents of Tagesspiegel). The goal of these articles should be to provide some conrete evidence about Ozils affliation, which they dont. 31: 2376: 3166:
impartial source which actually exaimed his tattoo, as opposed to writing thinkpieces on Erdogan and Grey Wolves would have mentioned this information. This is why I questioned the quality of the sources and their bias/agenda. If the information is to be included than saying that a tattoo IS a symbol of the Grey Wolves is not appropriate. I will fix this eventually to present it in a more unbiased manner.
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believe I don't need to do-, I can mention few edits of mine revealing in disfavour of Turkish views on various things, such as improving the anti-Greek sentiment article or Kurds section in the anti-Turkish sentiment article/talk- and I had been preparing a new article on a Kurdish emirate. These are my counter evidences, which some of them can be verified, to your allegation.)
3098:- Tagesschau - Makes a claim about the percieved resemblance of the tattoo to the symbol of the oragnization. Same argument as Hakan Tas. Then the author provides a quote from the same political scientist that ZDF quoted. Again anecdotal. Then like the other articles goes on the history of Grey Wolves without providing any additional evidence on whether or not Ozil is affliated. 3016:. I can accept that you take issue with specific citations but these outright removals of the tattoo controversy are not okay. If you perform one web search for "mesut özil graue wölfe tattoo" you'll find that this was covered by all kinds of very reliable media. I have restored the section with more reliable sourcing. We now have four citations: from 405: 119: 2979: 814: 1327: 1924:(and I haven't even thought/suggested it above - none!), but is related to a years-long training to follow an algorithm to evaluate/scrutinise the information, and construct arguments out of the data (i.e. critical thinking) (and involves some extra grit and perseverance). I think you have been stuck in the very first steps of 1580:
indicate that you removed sourced content. While you gave a reason, it is not particularly valid. I know that Turkish and Kurdish nationalists see a distinction between being both Kurdish and Turkish, but the real world does not. Since we have clear sources that associate him with both, we use what they say, or at least said.
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here, though - that's why I have personal allergy against nationalism, and that's why I try to work on some controversial items in Knowledge (XXG) by trying to look at both people's perspective, so that these people can come closer to each other - kind of peace operation). However, the main problem here is the two
3056:"In July, 2023, Hakan Tas, a left wing Berlin MP, with an affliation to the PKK Kurdish Militant organization, accused Mesut Ozil of being a member of member of the far-right organization Grey Wolves, based on a percieved resemblance of a tattoo on the players chest to the symbol of the organization." 1957:
do not hesitate to bring this topic to ANI (as a separate item since the previous dispute has been solved by the admin, in my humble opinion) - it would be very healthy if we disengage and let the admins to settle the matter. I really would like to focus on the content, if you let me do. Kind regards
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Ive tried to compromise on the language with you as well, by only including the factual information about the howling wolf being a symbol of the Grey Wolves and it being depicted in his tattoo. However, you are opposed to that too (based on the reverts) and are insisting on pushing a false narrative
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I haven't accused of anything and haven't you named of anything - please name defending the presence of the two very unreliable sources at all costs in Knowledge (XXG) (for one reason to another) however you like. Honourable editor, I think we failed to resolve the user conduct dispute here - please
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has "In 2022, Grey Wolves vandalized an Armenian genocide memorial in Brussels with three crescents, similar to the MHP logo." With the Grey Wolves being the MHP's paramilitary young wing, calling the three crescents a symbol for the Grey Wolves could been seen, if anything, as slightly imprecise,
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You acknowledge that the 3 crescent moons are not present in the Grey Wolves symbol, yet this is what is highlighted in all the sources included, without any mention of the MHP whatsoever (or about historical and cultural significance of crescent moons and grey wolves). The same way the misleading
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with reliable resources, i.e. reliable in a sense that Knowledge (XXG) has various clear definitions. I also started to think that these claims might have some chronological importance even though, in my opinion, their claims are incorrect. I think I will aim for a balance in my concluding remarks
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Why in the world would I have to come to this talk page to discuss whether you are or are not a Turkish nationalist? It has been primarily Turkish nationalists who have removed any mention of Özil's Kurdhish heritage. the warning template is generic. If you want, I can go an add a comment to it to
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I believe you are definitely right claiming that this item has been attacked by Turkish nationalists (didn't know it). However, couldn't we think in the same vein that, the same item has been protected and bolstered by Kurdish nationalists at all costs despite this personality's various public and
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Could you please elaborate on why I had been accused of being a Turkish nationalist by yourself without any exchange through a Talk page? Could you please provide your evidence on my nationality or political view on things? (I categorically refuse your allegation. As a proof of this -even though I
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A claim about Özil was added, "He later stated he regrets this decision", with four references supposedly supporting the claim. I ran the three written ones through Google Translate and not of them supports it (the fourth reference is a Youtube video from Özil's unveiling at Fenerbahçe so using it
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The language/text you are insiting on including in this article explicity states that the 3 crescents are symbols of the Grey Wolves which is false. The sources stating as such are publishing false information, hence why they are unreliable. A source stating a claim does not make it true. Even in
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As mentioned before, I must let you to feel free to reinterpret my remarks from now on since I do not want to repeat my elaboration given in here and in the ANI. I need to focus on the content after the disengage, which I really need to do, rather than, I came to the conclusion that, teaching you
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I do not remember anywhere I recall that I made such a statement or I imply such a thought, I'm afraid. Could you please quote where I have made such a statement? I believe such a thought would be very contradictory and shameful to me since I am one of those dual-heritage people (cannot prove it
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The reason for omitting three cescent moons was because the uninformed authors of these articles alleged that the three crescent moons (which are actually not present on the Grey Wolves symbol) are symbol of the Grey Wolves. The three crescent moons were present flags of the Ottomon Empire used
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My interpretation is spot-on. You literally wrote "these early Kurdification attempts of this personality has failed due to his public remarks, e.g. 'I will always be Turkish' (2015)" did you not? How would you interpret the removal of these so-called "Kurdification attempts" paired in the same
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I will complete my study, sharing the line of thought of mine and verifiable evidence in this Talk page to get feedback from the community. And, based on community's consensus, I will move the distilled outcome from this Talk page to the main page. Meanwhile, I will apply for dispute resolution
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In modern times, they symbols have been hijacked and used in by nationalist movements. There is absolutely no way for the authors or anyone else to confirm whether Ozils tattoo references the Ottomon Empire and Turkic mythology or the Nationalist Movement Party and/or Grey Wolves. A reputable
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In July 2023, a photo on Instagram was published showing a tattoo depicting a howling wolf on Özil's chest. A few domestic German news outlets, 1 left wing Berlin MP and 1 political scienstist, used to accuse him of being affliated with ultra right-wing ogranization Grey Wolves based on their
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matter is priority. For this reason, I must let you to feel free to reinterpret my remarks from now on - my explanations to date I deem are fine and elaborate, in my humble opinion. I presume we will be in contact again at the end of this research attempt. Till then, I would like to thank the
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You do not need to make a statement to imply it. Quite simply, when you stated that there were "Kurdification attempts" and at the same time stated that his ""I will always be Turkish" comment precluded the possibility that he had any Kurdish heritage, you made it clear that the two could not
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I appreciate you reaching out via this talk page message to discuss this issue but I dont think we will see eye to eye on this. In my opinion, citing a number of articles on a given topic or issue alone does not necessarily add merit to allegation or claim, if the content of the articles is
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percieved likeness of the tattoo to the Symbol of the Oraganization. His affliation was never confirmed and the news outlets covering the story primarily discussed his friendship with Recep Erdogan as a basis from him being a Turkish nationslist and thus likely a member of the Grey Wolves.
2603:. Goal.com isn't great and I haven't seen Özil's alleged retirement covered in more reliable media. Also, there hasn't been an official announcement either by Özil, his club or representatives of his. Maybe this will change tomorrow, we'll have to wait and see… Kind regards, 937:"One of the best players in the world"? A bias Arsenal fan must of put that in, the two sources are his former manager (Arsene Wenger) and team mate (Marco Reus) which are not reliable sources. The other source states "One of the best in the PREMIER LEAGUE" not in the world. 1604:
have filed every previous time as well." This has been very clearly implying that I am (i.e. the person who removed the sourced(?) content) a nationalist of a Turkish sort with no supporting evidence. Therefore, naturally, I had decided to defend myself against baseless
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Hello, I noticed in the edit history that nominations for specific awards were removed from the player's honors and awards section. I was wondering why that was. I think the nominations are a relevant aspect of the player's career and should be kept.
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after completing my research on this topic fully - and will wait the community's feedback (including yourself). However, I would like to put this item a bit at a distance for some time, and disengage by following this content-dispute resolution item
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You have yet to provide any kind of source supporting that claim. With many German newspapers reporting on this, you'd think someone would have publicly called out the error if the German newspapers had got it completely wrong? By the way,
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clear remarks on his ethnicity? "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - how do you monitor the validity of claims? Could you please indicate us, so that we can follow the same protocol? Or do you only use your gut feeling?
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They have never been deemed reliable in the first place, irrespective of your personal opinion. If someone (me or anyone else) wants to make a case about them being unreliable, they are welcome to do so for other editors to discuss.
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So now you're claiming to be too smart for me to understand what is obvious to anyone who sees it. No, sorry, you stated that because Özil made it clear that he was Turkish that he could not be Kurdish as well. Plain and simple.
3197:.) And our job as editors is to reflect the reporting of reliable sources. If the reliable sources which reported on the tattoos indeed got things wrong in this instance as you claim, that's a problem we have to live with. See 1530:). The motivation of this edit has been clear: the lack of verified evidence on this personality's ethnic background - and the existing sources' contradiction on the personality's own remarks on his ethnic background. 340: 1619:
I think the article belongs to the community who created it; therefore, I don't see why I have to have an inclination to negotiate anything with another editor apart from carrying out discussions on the topic
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between 1499-1517, as well as between 1517-1793. Similarly, the the Grey Wolf itself is a symbol of Turkic Mythology (even outlets reporting on the Grey Wolves organization mention the origins of the symbol
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I noticed a revert in October where FIFPro World XI, UEFA Player of the Year, and Ballon d'or nominations were removed from the article. I think these are relevant accomplishments that should be kept.
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Violation of WP:NOR. Not up to Knowledge (XXG) editors to fill in gaps and make original arguments about plausability. The authors claim that 3 crescents are symbols for the Grey Wolves, which is false.
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sentence with the "I will always be Turkish" comment? The only way I can see it is that being Turkish excludes one from being anything else. Your response supports the claim, yet you try to refute it.
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It seems the numbers that are already here are reliable for now. If you can possibly find another site that says this, please provide it, or if you think I made a mistake, please escalate the issue to
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I am speechless that I have still being accused of a nationalist of any sort due to my scrutiny on the content and validity of two references being shared in this article. I categorically deny this
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None of them did, actually. They claim that the three crescents and the howling wolf are symbols for the Grey Wolves. And as the Grey Wolves and the MHP belong together, that claim is plausible.
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This is why I questioned the quality of the sources and their bias/agenda. If the information is to be included than saying that a tattoo IS a symbol of the Grey Wolves is not appropriate.
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correct as of the date specified above the stats table. Problem was that it hadn't been updated to the end of the season, which I've now done. Hopefully correctly... Thanks both. cheers,
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channels, wherever, however and whenever appropriate, to protect this article from, I believe, your forcible suppression of opposition and baseless accusations without any further study.
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When I suggested that your edits were clearly inline with Turkish nationalism you took me to ANI. You've just clearly called my ignorant (at least in relationship to you). Seriously?
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has no basis in reality. The sources are generally reliable and anything but "niche". Again, if you think the sources are unsuitable, take it to the reliable source noticeboard.
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Based on my opinion (and it is just an opinion), these articles barely have anything of merit. I suppose the other way to present this information in the article is to say that:
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Should we consider that you had been trying to keep the article content in a way and only the way you deem appropriate despite legitimate scrutiny on these claims in question?
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https://web.archive.org/web/20100918221222/http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1330015494251/noticia/Cronica/The_Whites_earn_a_victory_in_their_Champions_League_debut.htm
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He is widely regarded as one of the best attacking midfielders of his generation at least, maybe even ever. He was the quintessential #10 from 2008 till around 2017/2018
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Your personal opinion does not trump half a dozen reliable sources. If you continue to remove reliably sourced content from the page, I will request admin intervention.
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Change League apps from 31 to 33 Change Cup apps from 2 to 3 Change Season total from 41 to 44 Change Arsenal total from 158 to 161 Change Career total from 464 to 467
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Have you a got a reliable source, for example a newspaper article, that states he's no longer captain? Knowledge (XXG) policy requires that content is verifiable; see
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The only argument presented is a claim by a left wing MP (with a political agenda of his own) that Ozil is allegedly a member based on the resemblance of a tattoo.
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Please cite this discussion and your unwilling to compromise on removing propaganda and false claims when submitting a request for admin intervention. Thanks.
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Nevertheless, if you want to keep this information in the article and present the accusation in an imprtial and unbiased manner then simply state the following:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110310153157/http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1330046715358/noticia/Noticia/Ozil_s_magic_amazes_the_entire_planet.htm
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That is not true. Only the Berliner Zeitung article, which we no longer use, referred to Hakan Tas. Please have a look at the four citations we have now.
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Three crescents are NOT symbols of the Grey Wolves. It is FALSE. Any source that publishes false claims can be assumed unreliable and it is undue weight.
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You are more than welcome to involve an admin. I dont take issue with that. It would actually be helpful to have other editors weigh in on this dispute.
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The language/text you are insiting on including in this article explicity states that the 3 crescents are symbols of the Grey Wolves which is false.
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PS: Please note that I am more than happy to be proven incorrect in light of verified evidence - instead of relying on a forum-entry-level claim.
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True. You have not accused me of anything. You've simply pointed to your PhD-level mind and by doing so have called me ignorant in comparison.
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contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page.
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Neither reference has a date but the Premier League one has this year's league stats. How did you establish the Premier League one is older?
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You see! You take the premise of mine or my sentence, and interpret it however way you deem appropriate the best serving to your premises
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Mm, why exactly would we consider the DFB a better source than the Premier League? Özil doesn't even play for the national team, anymore…
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If someone (me or anyone else) wants to make a case about them being unreliable, they are welcome to do so for other editors to discuss.
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Okay. The Premier League reference seems more up-to-date so I think it would make sense to change it back. Would you be fine with that?
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as an explanation. Please also note that such a statement will never happen again as I have reiterated this point inside the ANI entry.
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I know that Turkish and Kurdish nationalists see a distinction between being both Kurdish and Turkish, but the real world does not.
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Since he played vs Leeds in the fa cup, he was eligible for a winners medal and therefore it should be added to his honours list.
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Please explain why you think OR does not apply to the Youtube video and how you think the three articles support the claim.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4514664/Arsenal-news-Mesut-Ozil-breaks-EPL-chance-creation-record.html
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I didn't find any sources until I went on the Soccerway website which includes the 2019–20 FA Cup trophy win on the list.
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The sources I used are of very high quality. (If you're doubtful about that, feel free to ask for them to be checked at
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You should remove it. This claim is rather subjective considering there are so many experts with a different opinion.
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Violation of WP:NOR. Not up to Knowledge (XXG) editors to fill in gaps and make original arguments about plausability.
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I'm sorry that the Internet is a difficult thing for some teams to learn how to use, but Özil's official team roster,
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this talk page disucssion, you have tried make a roundabout original argument to defend this false 3 crescents claim.
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Why in the world would I have to come to this talk page to discuss whether you are or are not a Turkish nationalist?
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all of them falsely claimed that the 3 crescent exists in an official logo of the Grey Wolves despite not being so.
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I didn't know about the German article, and didn't think the rules of original research are applying to this case.
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You're entitled to your opinion. But I don't think it's reasonable to discount all of German media because of
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These are not honours, they are statistics. "Honours" refers to awards and similar explicit acknowledgements.
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I also do not understand why you cannot see that someone can have Kurdish and Turkish heritage simultaneously.
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without a supporting evidence. "Is not valid" based on what? According to which criteria - which protocol? An
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Sure. I'm amazed that you took this to ANI, but I still do not understand why you slandered the content as "
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coexist. That's not contentious to most, but it is contentious a certain group of nationalists (or worse).
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I don't think he's captain of fenerbache, considering they've said they will never start him again.
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http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_47_787_bundesliga-player-profile-mesut-ozil-werder-bremen.html
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Why wouldn't we? And why would we assume an older reference to be more reliable than a newer one?
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honourable editors again - and wish you a very pleasant experience of Wikipediaing in the future.
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Since we have clear sources that associate him with both, we use what they say, or at least said.
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are known to be the same by the world? Could you please show your supporting evidence? I believe
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I heard that Ozil had his contract terminated and said that he quitted football in some sources
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Hey!!Mr in Arsenal official website total Apps are 187+9 and Goals are 37.You can edit it now!!
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Also note that those tables have their own criteria for what counts (regarding friendlies etc.)
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Based on my opinion (and it is just an opinion), these articles barely have anything of merit.
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Ozil is heavily tattooed on his left arm. He also has a lion on his left arm and a flower.
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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If you want, I can go an add a comment to it to indicate that you removed sourced content.
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Could you please tell me what were the attempts of yours to verify any of these sources?
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Ozil is heavily tattooed on his left arm. He has a lion and a flower on his left arm.
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Plenty of players have that tag line - why doesn’t he? He deserves that recognition.
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transfermarket also includes that honour but we don't use that as a reliable source.
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I've seen rumours but is there a reliable source that reports this with certainty?
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Some award nominations are not important enough to be kept. Which are you missing?
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Turkish town to replace Mesut Özil’s German team photo with one alongside Erdoğan
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Also, please note that, as I mentioned this before in the discussion below:
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I have seen no news sources to confirm a transfer. Feel free to supply one.
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accusation, and I put forward some of my edits as the supporting evidence.
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above. Let me know when you start a discussion about the sources there.
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showed him using last season's kit number. It has been updated since.
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Most of your arguments in this discussion are original research. 🤷
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xenophobia and racism this player has been subjected to in Germany
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but certainly not outright false as you persistently claim.
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Would you like to challenge the claim or simply remove it?
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could you please address this help clarify your request?
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