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On the website of this museum I see that in several different places they give their name exactly like this: "Muséum national d'Histoire naturelle". I tried to "move" the article title to reflect this, but I am unable to. Surely there is no better reference for how to write this title than the museum
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As I'm sure many of you know, the word for 'museum' in French is 'musée', yet this place is called a 'muséum'. Does anybody know why it is called such? This information should if possible be included in the article because I'm sure that other French speakers have also wondered at this naming anomaly
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While I don't doubt Vincent Battesti had good intentions by whatever edit he was making, unfortunately this particular edit appears to have reverted possibly years worth of edits to the article. My guess is that 6 years of edits were lost, taking the article back in time to 2015, around the time he
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If the last one is indeed the way that the names of other national natural history museums here are constructed, then perhaps you are right that we should use that. However, just now I did a Knowledge (XXG) search, and I actually found more titles with this construction: "National Museum of Natural
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I just updated this article's list of directors/presidents to present day, then decided to go back through the article's history to figure out why there is a broken "Night at." reference in that same section. I eventually found that broken reference came from this particular edit by
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These words are synonyms in English, so this sentence makes no sense. Perhaps there is some difference in French, in which case the translation needs to be improved upon. For instance "incorporated" could be exchanged for "founded" and it would make sense.
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The problem with that suggestion is that there are at least 4 different ways of rendering the museum's name in English. The one you suggest is only one version. Try a Google search and you will see what I mean within the top 8 listings.
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A little while ago, I accidentally "moved" the name of the talk page rather than the name of the article. However, I am officially requesting a move for the name of the article, so let us see what happens.
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The "garden" (Jardin des Plantes de Paris) and the "galeries", all expositions of the museum, make up the "historical heart" of the museum. But the museum has other sites in and out of Paris over France
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first tried to add the logo to the page. Did anyone else notice this happened? Can something be done about the lost changes here, even though a year's worth of edits have been added to it since then?
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doesn't start with a capital because this famous museum, the Louvre, is a French national museum... but teaches nothing, it is not a teaching institution. The
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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The English name has a fair amount of usage. I note the main France tourism website,
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Article rewritten to give history and distinguish the galleries at the
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Should I go ahead and move it? Or you can Labattblueboy if you like.
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from the institution of the Muséum (of which the Jardin is a part). —
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Who knows. Ask the museum owners. It's how they spelled it on
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Here is what I got for google book hits in English:
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That's all, it is that simple. 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