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I personally don't have much input for this article, except to revert vandalism and occasionally fix spelling. (My interest is mostly in what was on Nick in 1985-1986.) Nevertheless, it's pretty clear from the nature of the vandalism (usually anti-Nick statements, rudely worded), and comments on the
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I'd love it to be added that Nick pretty much hates the shows it makes. Invader Zim has a cult following and it got canceled. Fairly Odd Parents is one of it's most popular shows and it's been slated for canceling along with the other popular Danny Phantom. Many Avatar fans are also fearful that the
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Nickelodeon means in German "der Musikautomat" which is "The music machine" or "the music automat" in English; being music automats from past times, where you put in a nickel and can here a short song. These automates were mostly located at annual fairs / carnivals. Unfortunately I do not have more
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I remember reading an article once that told of the history of Nick, how it was originally some Canadian Broadcasting project for a kids channel, and was run by some librarian but failed/was dormant for many years because it was too moralizing and boring to grab kids attention; then some new person
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It might have been as simple as collecting a library of worn cartoons and outdated kids' shows. But the people at Warner Cable Corp. decided to break new ground with "Nickelodeon," an enterprise they could call 'the first all-day, every day, something-for-every-kid programming package ever offered
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your question, they wanted more profits, as usually participating in Nick's sweepstakes cost money (ex. buying spongebob crackers or something and sending in coupons), but apparently, they decided for some reason tnot to take them there anyway, just give them free admission for a certain number of
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This article described Nick Too as "Nick on a three hour delay -- its west coast feed repackaged for east coast viewers", and that doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It's essentially the EAST coast feed delayed by three hours for WEST coast audiences. I changed this
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I deleted the "New Era" Critisms section for several reasons. First off, it looks to be written by a 4th grader. Secondly, most every criticism mentioned goes without any sort of example, with the next sentence making an entirely different criticism. Lastly, there are no sources. So overall, it
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Nickelodeon produced many live-action programs. Clarissa Explains It All, Are you Afriad of the Dark, The Adventures of Pete and Pete are only a sampling of the live-actions shows Nick produced. Don't forget the many game shows, All That (which among other things launched the careers of Nick
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Guys (and girls), I'm writing about a vauge memory I have of a show that wa son Nickelodeon which I believe was called "Power House". It was about a group of teenagers that live din some kind of community center and would solve crimes and/or mysteries. I believe it starred
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The daily schedule includes "Pinwheel" for pre-schoolers, "Video Comic Books," starring heroes like Green Lantern and Space Ranger, "Nickel Flicks," featuring adventure serials from the 1930s and '40s, "By the Way," for kids 7-12, and "America Goes Bananaz" for teen-agers.
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I just did a search and found an old article from July, 16 1979 which talks about Nickelodeon, and does not refer to it as the Pinwheel Network. They obviously were using the name Nickelodeon before 1981. I can post the full article if interested, but here's an excerpt:
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came in with the idea of giving the sort of entertainment kids want, not what their parents want them to have... that lead to YCDTOT and then it took off from there. Just making the note here, researching this is on my todo list until I get a round tuit.... -
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Nickelodeon has received a decent amount of criticism more recently from its older viewers. The current shows that Nickelodeon runs are much different in style than their previous shows and many of their more recently added shows, such as
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That's because there ARE so many shows. To list them all would take a full page. There are KEY shows that help to describe Nick and its tastes and its history, and those are what get listed. If you want to see the list, go here:
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I've seen references to "Nickelodeon" in newspaper articles from before 1981 (for example "Children's Programming Without Commercials" in the New York Times 3/4/79) so I think we need to clarify when the name change occured.
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Going through the Knowledge pages for several other cable channels, it doesn't appear that the TV Network infobox Ddespie tried to implement is in widespread use (or that it's even recognized -- I didn't see it listed at
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I disgree. In either case, we're getting hung up over nothing. My main point, really, is that this article talks about nothing but cartoons. Nickelodeon was and still is, I believe, so much more than that.
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Yeah, I guess that's a big enough page to create. But you'd have to do your research. Don't just suggest a topic. Help out w/ it! But you know, that sounds like a really good topic. Oh, and sign yer posts.
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Either way, I think this type of infobox has merit and should be allowed to stay, as they can provide a quick overview or reference in a standard format without a reader having to skim through the article.
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You can't blame obesity on Nickelodeon anymore than you can blame it on Cartoon Network, the Disney Channel, or any other television station. Parents just like to put blame of their mistakes on others.
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I would also like creating a new article "Nickeodeon (Music automat)" or (Music machine), but the above info is quite sparse. Does anyone have more infos or a picture / drawing of such a machine?
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By "well volunteered" I meant by *you*. I know nothing about Nick Japan. It's not common curtosy to demand articles on a wiki: why not start it yourself, or request it in the usual way?
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Nickelodeon is a hypocrite, they talk constantly about their "Let's Just Play" program and healthyness, but 96% of their commercials are for video games and junk food. For shame.
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I seem to remeber that Nick had something called Big Help in the 90's. It promoted cleaning the enviroment. Does anyone else remeber this? If so I think it should be added.
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Why did Nick offer trips to Universal Studios Florida as grand prizes on their game shows? They had to get there in order to be on the show. That doesn't make sense.
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I'm not saying that's my opinion; I'm saying that's an opinion that needs to be addressed. I'm just trying to think of ways to make this a more useful article. --
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I bolded some things that should've been taken out, but why the whole section? Blanking sections without discussing it on the talk page is considered vandalism.
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User Ddespie@san.rr.com has been adding and removing the infobox all week - so, given (imo) there isn't much useful information on there, should it stay?
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simply doesn't deserve a place in the article, not in its current state anyway. I admit, I barely watch Nickelodeon at all anymore (I was a big fan of
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Okay, another attempt has been made to add a Criticism section, again without citing a source. Rather than remove it I cleaned it up a bit and added
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ironically, you have just created a criticism section. Yeah, if you know of some substantiated criticism, there probably should be such a section.
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I wrote all that and I'll admit it is all a bit POV, but there is a lot of concensus to the last part if you read many Wiki pages of nick shows.
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Now all nick really cares about is cartoons, mostly of which they hate. There is only a couple of live action shows on per day on the weekdays!
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Here's some links, looks like I've got part of the story right, these bits can probably be digested and rewritten to flesh out the history:
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I don't think that last fact can be sourced... unless you can find some random article out there about certain nickelodeon commercials.
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I'll be more than happy to talk about specific examples if you want to say something, but aren't sure on how to do thisĀ :) --
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I don't get the 4th line of the history section. Wouldn't parents know about the daytime Nick since their children watch it?
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A much larger criticism comes from Nickelodeon's unresponsiveness to fan input. Many of Nick's more popular shows, such as
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Cannon, Amanda Bynes, Kenan Thompson), Nick News (hosted by Peabody and Emmy Award winner Linda Ellerbee).
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I feel that this article needs a section with a list of shows, there are so many that are not mentioned.
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Now since the Nick Wiki is out! we should start to transwiki some Nickelodeon-related articles there! --
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talk pages, that a significant number of fans are angry. This probably should be mentioned, citing a
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Nick's role in the increasing obesity and other health problems to increased tv-watching in children
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same fate will come about due to the presidents deep seated hatred for anime. That's my critisim.
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We need to add something like a critisim (sorry, can't spell that) section without looking silly.
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have been cancelled much to fan uproar.( A complaint arises that Nickelodeon relies too much on
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Thank you very much 9cds. Let me know when it is completed by contacting me at my talk page. --
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An hour-long special called "Bugaboo" or something was shown and I think we should metion it.
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days. And if this doesn't answer your question... well, we porbably can't help you from there.
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And "Nickelodeon," begun in April, was by Warner Cable's standards an immediate success.
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The Article on the Japanese version of Nickelodeon must be created immediately. --
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article to reflect this, but wanted to make sure that I've got the right idea.
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I don't mean to bother,but don't you think there should be a criticism section?
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Very. Just look at the quality of their products. (spits out yucky nick candy) (
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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I'll be happy to help - just say what you want to say on this page, or on my
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adds it. I'm not sure of either's motives, so I'm not getting into that.
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It was for a return trip, so they can come back later.-TheVofSteel
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http://en.wikipedia.org/Danny_Phantom#Action_against_cancellation
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Opinions have no point on wikipedia articles in the first place.
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infos than that. Should I include that into the article anyhow?
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Why was the criticism removed without it being discussed here?
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I thought that aired on the Nicktoons Network.-TheVofSteel
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Nevermind, this makes sense to me now. Changing it back.
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Can Nick toys be added somewhere (Gak, Smud, Floam, etc.)?
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I am removing the link to nickelodeon.tv for two reasons:
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I added a critisim section, someone has to fill it out.
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Nickelodeon's competition with Disney Channel and other
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Everytime I add something, somebody deletes my edit.
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It is nothing more than a page linking to other sites
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