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Our article's lead paragraph, "Nikolai Evgenievich Khokhlov (Cyrillic: Николай Евгеньевич Хохлов) (7 June 1922, Nizhny Novgorod - September 2007 San Bernardino, California) was a KGB officer who defected to the United States in 1954. He testified about KGB activities. The KGB unsuccessfully tried to
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Wow! Dr. Khokhlov was one of my professors at California State U., San Bernardino in 1993-1994. We knew that he was a Soviet defector, and he sometimes alluded vaguely to cloak-and-dagger stuff, but I had no idea about his history as a KGB hit man. He was a great teacher, and a really kind and warm
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He used to talk about parapsychological stuff he did at Duke University with the gov't. I don't remember any of the details, but he talked about how the Soviets were "ahead" of the U.S. in that area. He definitely believed in stuff like Kirlian photography and "auras" and things like
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kill him using thallium poison." mentions thallium as the agent allegedly used against Khokhlov. Our own article presents evidence further down that it's in dispute whether the poison used was radioactive thallium or polonium-210, which was used in the
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in poisoning Khokhlov. The US Army Medical Corps succeeded in saving his life with immediate therapy to remove whatever the KGB gave him from his body (the therapy for thallium and polonium poisoning is similar, usually
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and make that change, as lede paragraphs ought to quickly acquaint the reader with the article's contents - my proposed change doesn't confuse the reader as the existing lede paragraph might.
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The best way to solve the issue is to omit the disputed specific name of the poison which was given to Khokhlov. The new lede would be shorter, and less potentially contentious:
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I chose to say "kill him with poison" anticipating an objection to my proposed text which ended "The KGB unsuccessfully tried to poison him in 1957". The KGB
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Part of our lede paragraph, "The KGB unsuccessfully tried to kill him using thallium poison" is in dispute, even in the article.
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in 1954. He testified about KGB activities. The KGB unsuccessfully tried to kill him with poison in 1957.
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I found information that Nikolay Khokhlov was working as a consultant for US Government in the field of
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person. I took History and Systems of Psychology and Perception from him as an undergrad.
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of the poisoned coffee he'd been served, he'd likely have died, according to
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