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That's how redirects work - the URL does stay the same. In any case, I've taken the easier way out and replaced the redirect with a disambiguation page. I've kept the merge tags but adjusted them to use the "move portions" phrasing - it should really be moved if they're talking about the same thing.
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I don't see any nonsense outside of the proposal for merger. Those are different pastries, particularly due to their appearance in different national cuisines. If you want to gain consensus for merge, please advertise this discussion better (on all related WikiProjects, and through RfC).
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In Butte povitica is a regional specialty, they make it at
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American example. It was made from a convent in PA, and is a simple example of the dessert. On a side note, it was really delicious.
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