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cannibalism. Simply a matter of perspective, or an inaccuracy? Nothing 'nativist' about pointing out that many of the early visitors to Yuquot stayed a short while, and brought with them a whole lot of preconceptions about what they were seeing: nothing new about pointing out that outside observers, with little or no knowledge of the local language, and relationships of purely commercial, and later, institutional interest with local groups produce very partial, often inaccurate accounts. That said, I find Jewitt's account informative, even when it offers a version of events that differ from the local history: on the flip side, i recall an illustration of a northern nuu-chah-nulth village from one of the spanish expeditions, in which the house fronts are depicted with polka dots. Clearly, the illustrator was at a distance, or couldn't render the images, so he fudged it. And Meares ("liar Meares" according to the maquinna we're discussing) provided accounts that were intentionally fantastical, to shore up his tenuous claims. A couple of these were "white men", though the spaniard was more likely beige...so what? I in fact agree with much of your commentary, though it drifts into characteristic (in light of your other posts, on this and other forums) polemic at the end. I'd suggest you've attached a lot of what are clearly personal pet peeves regarding history to my comments unfairly. I don't see it said anywhere in my comments that white accounts are to be entirely disregarded; seems much of your post, in reference to my comments, is itself bad history. From one dumb white man to another, regards. Woodschmoe, July 2006.
835:"demonstrated" is not quite the proper verb there, unless you expect the First Nations account to be more reliable than anyone else's, simpy because it's First Nations. That's not how the world works; or we'd accept the Turkish version of Albanian and Greek history, or the Japanese version of the history of the Manchukuo. Good history relies on telling all sides of the story; blanket denials based on the skin colour or cultural origin of the person making the account are not valid, nor should they be expected to be simply because a name/person "belongs" to a given people. Denial of someone else's account to the point of excluding it altogether is, to me, dishonest (by which I mean things like reports of cannibalism by the early mariners - who had seen such practices elsewhere and could not have been "mistaken because they were dumb white men", as some nativists like to claim - cannot be excluded; they can be
875:, maybe they deserve to be forgotten, how's that? And yeah, your comment about "demonstrated to be inaccurate" set me off about a lot of C*R*A*P heard/seen in soc.culture.native and L-CHINOOK about whitey not knowing what he was talking about and only indigenous accounts being trustworthy/valid; the implication was there that that's where you were coming from, or your sources were, so I reacted, yes reacted, accordingly; and cannibalism being the most polemical I brought it up, partly because of a passage in Pethick's book I came across the other day which I pondered adding to the article; I just got up so will find the passage later and post it here for your consideration; since you're evidently more of an expert on the Nuu-chah-nulth than I ever could be or would want to be. I simply wrote the original base-article because it was
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Canadian-Chinese history, or Central Canadian biases concerning BC, or American biases (APOV) on the Alaska boundary and others, it's not "pet peeves", it's concern for truth, especially for overturning shibboleths and dearly-held mythologies which; very much like the Nuu-chah-nulth concern for having their history accounted for correctly. But I'll tell you what; it would help if they sat down and made a point of circulating it; I made my contributions in Maquinna, Mowachaht, and here
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then I would be in agreement that a change is not required, following the Germany/Deutchland explanation. But it is disrespectful to the Nuu-Chah-Nulth for us to choose a different name be the most prominent reference to them on Knowledge. Additionally on most if not all of the Government of British
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Nootkas, the line and people of Maquinna (I've met one or two). People less read-up on native affairs still use Nootka to refer to the Nuu-chah-nulth; and that name kinda also means the Nitinat, too, in an old-fashioned historical way (19th C books); BC politicians/media/educators will consistently
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True, but the place name was imposed by the same people who declared the people to be Nootka: so I don't think that this fact has any bearing on the question at hand. As mentioned, the Nuu-chah-nulth themselves have far older, still existent place names for these locations, so to refer to the
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but that's a crock. The way to "address this issue properly" is to examine all of these, but bulk of them needless directs from then-long-standing titles moved by yourself, one by one as I was instructed/advised re the bulk RMs; as case-by-case decisions are needed. You want a centralized
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