638:"During the 2010s, there was a discussion within media of a possible nu metal revival because of bands fusing nu metal with other genres, the return of nu metal bands, extant bands going back to the nu metal genre and nu metal bands forming". So much info here, but little detail. You should rearrange the info: one paragraph for disbanded bands that returned, another for bands returning to the music style, and which new bands were formed. By the way, it may sound repetitive, but you should say "new nu metal bands forming".
247:"Nu metal bands also are influenced by and use elements of genres of heavy metal music such as death metal, rap metal, groove metal, funk metal, and thrash metal". Aren't those too many uses of the word "metal"? Death and thrash should be referred simply that way; unlike the others, there is no death or thrash music genre that isn't the heavy metal one. Still, link to
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I would like to request a second opinion on this article. First, I would like an opinion about the prose from someone else. Second, I would like a second opinion on those very frequent mentions to album sales and similar stuff: is the article staying on topic (the topic is the music genre), or is it
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We were actually hoping we'd get suggestions from the reviewers on this. We didn't get a lot of this on the last Peer review. Peer reviews go ignored and are underpaid in attention. GANs do not - reviewer guaranteed. As long as we stay at it, maybe the reviewer will give us time - I've had a GAN sit
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I was also uncomfortable with this at first, but consider the situation. These references are used to cover all the info in that sentence, and some are unavailable to the contributors without paying money for those books (McIver's book, in this case). On the other hand, individual citations to each
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I would say it is not. While I have worked on it heavily, I agreed to a GAN because I was hoping that a reviewer would give some advice as to what positions to remove. The last peer review did not get any of those suggestions in a reasonable amount of time. A GAN guarantees a reviewer. In my eyes,
661:. The article does not seem to mention anything from other countries (only influences to Sepultura and Soulfly, but although they come from Brazil, they have been living in the US long before the nu metal first appeared). So, are there noteworthy nu metal regional scenes outside of the US, or not?
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518:"...released albums that draw from the nu metal genre, though they are usually recognized for performing hip hop or another type of heavy metal". It should be rewritten to something like "Heavy metal bands and hip hop bands released albums with influences from nu metal".
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Did the South Park episode had some actual significance for nu metal, beyond the mere cameo? Korn clearly did not became famous for it, they had already sold a 5x platinum the previous year.
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