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New York Times or the Wall Street Journal or the London Telegraph or the Economist because I find them more credible than Joe Six Pack Blogger! There is a lot of anti-american/communist opinion expressed and implied in supposedly "neutral" wikipedia articles. For example the tv license article implies that somehow the government at one time attempted to have a tv license -- which would be a PATENT violation of the 4th amendment -- but decided not to because the quality of commercial TV had been demonstrated. Complete nonsense! The first radio stations in the USA were completely unregulated and completely private enterprises. The american equivilent of OFCOM was not created for another 30 years. Whereas in England, it was apparently illegal to broadcast unless you were the BBC. It was a totally different process, and Americans in any case would certainly NEVER stand for TV licenses. We proved that in 1776. You might as well have Pencil Licenses, and a British Writing Corporation, to "preserve the quality of works created with pencils". The British Writing Corporation, of course, would have the authority to charge money for the right to own pencils, and to inspect your home to determine if you have any unlicensed pencils. (see www.centreforcitizenship.org.uk if you think no brits agree with me on that) My point here is, to suggest that this guy Old Right should be banned from wikipedia in an attempt to create "credibility" is complete nonsense. Either ANYBODY can edit an article, or they can't. If they can't, that seems to defeat the purpose of having a wikipedia. Again, if I want something edited, with reliable information, I will go to Encyclopedia Britannica. If I want unedited information on esoteric subjects like Star Trek and Lord of the Rings, I will use Knowledge. But Knowledge will never be credible to the extent that Encyclopedia Britannica is, because the University of Chicago, the world renown university which currently owns Britannica, is fundamentally more credible than the people who post to wikipedia, including myself. --Brian, former usn submariner
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capacity as a crown officer, can ask for a nuclear strike. However the Prime Minister, unlike the President of the US, is not a commissioned officer in HM Forces and therefore cannot order any serving member of the armed forces to do anything and require them to obey. Instead, s\he will ask the Chief of the Defence Staff (who is a commisioned officer) to order the launch. This, in theory, provides a safeguard against a particularly despotic Prime Minister "going rogue" and ordering a nuclear strike on their own. In practice, however, it is unlikely this distinction would be observed - especially in a crisis situation likely to require nuclear retaliation. Further complications arise due to submarine based Trident weapons and the envelopes on-board. This whole topic is explored in much more detail in the book "The Secret State - Britain and the Cold War" by Professor Peter Hennessy. -
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Reading his web site, I see nothing that indicates that he is directly connected to President Carter or President Reagan, the White House staff, US military command, or any other primary sources. There is no chain of evidence that leads to any other source, primary or otherwise. In my editorial judgment, this citation is not acceptable by Knowledge's standards. Can anyone find a better reference? If not, I am inclined to remove this sentence and reference, because for all we know this information is completely made up.
31: 437:, plain and simple. The author has likely made up these "accounts" out of thin air to facilitate his/her writing. In reality, these "accounts" likely don't exist. And, if they do, the author likely has no idea as to whom they may be attributed. If this weren't the case, then the author would speficy to what s/he is referring when writing "some accounts." This kind of slick writing is also evil in the Wiki World! 1102:
sovreign power to a monarch ("Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed" says the Declaration), how does the launching of nuclear weapons work in Britain? I assume the PM is the one who would give the order, not the Queen? Does Blair have a "nuclear football"? --Brian, former US Navy submariner
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states that there is actually a long hierarchy of other people that succeed the Secretary of Defense in cases like this. Also, as an aside of some original research, I would presume that if the SecDef position is vacant in the National Command Authority (presume EVERYONE dies in the succession), the
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It's really quite simple. PM orders CoDS to launch nuclear strike and he directs communication to our SSBNs and the 'bombers' come to missile depth and do their duty. In case of a surprise strike, our SSBNs do not pick up the daily radio broadcasts they expect to they come to missile depth. And the
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I understand that pictures of the real thing would be totally classified, but why is it so? Even if terrorists or whatever found out what the football really looked like, they wouldn't be able to fight through a ton of marines and secret service agents to get to it. And even then they would need the
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reply to the above paragraph: I'm not "Old Right", but lmao you can't say wikipedia is "anyone can edit wikipedia" and then turn around and say "but this person is banned". You shouldn't try to give wikipedia credibility; credibility is why we pay for Encyclopedias and Newspapers! lmao I pay for The
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Hi, it appears that the "football" also contains sensors that detect if the GPS/GNSS systems go down or get seriously out of sync as this would be likely in the event of a first strike involving nuclear weapons detonated in space. It also senses radio timing signals, so that in the event of some or
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1: The Secretary of Defense could refuse to comply with the order. He would be fired, and charged with treason 2: His deputy would then be given the order. The deputy could then also refuse to comply with the order. 3: If the deputy Secretary of Defense refused to comply with the order as well, it
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Guys, here's a question for you, elsewhere in wikipedia it says that the Queen of England is the Commander in Chief of the british military. Putting aside the fact that we Patriots of the United States find it astonishing to see The People of any modern first world nation willing to sacrifice their
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The quotation from Gulley says the football contains 4 things, and lists them - they are all printed material of some sort. Then the section "Operation" says "Next, using whatever communications technology the satchel has ...", with, unfortunately, "citation needed". Is there any more information
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Between the lack of sourcing and the rampant, speculative original research, this article is in very poor shape. And the style of writing is unacceptable, given the weasel words run amuck. Someone who's invested in this entry should fix it up before an admin comes across it and takes bolder action.
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And I didn't mentioned all of the un-cited facts. The entire description of the contents of the nuclear football is uncited. And, since the author claims that this information is "highly classified," how can we trust that s/he really knows its contents and isn't simply speculating? For this reason,
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His article "Secrets of the Nuclear Football" cited here is described as having been published in something called "The Scoogie Spin", though the web site is defunct and I can't figure out what kind of publication this is. So this leaves me trying to assess Bodek himself as an authoritative source.
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article states that:"The designee is provided presidential-level security and transport for the duration of the event. An aide carries the nuclear football with them. However, they are not given a briefing on what to do in the event that the other successors to the presidency are killed". So, does
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I certainly appreciate your take-charge attitude on the matter, but you may have gone a little overboard. A template or two and a few tags could have done the job where the page is now nearly unreadable. Seven cleanup templates and a tag (or two!) after nearly every statement? I realize that this
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To unsigned complainer, can we see YOUR history please? I looked for Old Right in the page history and his last edit was an addition of extra information on who has "dropped the ball" before. He may have partisan opinions but, in that case at least, I think he acted on those opinions to REDUCE the
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Why would President George H. W. Bush losing the briefcase be most recently? Bill Clinton was President after Bush, so I can't see how the article could possibly be accurate as is. Maybe the original author confused George H. W. Bush (41st President) with George W. Bush (current, 43rd President).
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historic, partially because it is a social media photograph of the aide carrying the nuclear football, but mostly because this is the first time (to the best of my knowledge) any of the aides have posed for a photograph while on duty, ever. Even the military has admitted that the situation was a
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I don't understand why? They are related but as much as a cockpit and a fighter jet. There is so much material about both alone (and not just duplication) that I think separate articles are very much deserved. The terms are also commonly used separately, with nuclear football being somewhat of a
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I just did a little more reading about WP policies regarding acceptable sources of information. So, while I understand my talking about "primary" sources is faulty (should have been "neutral third party with a reputation for fact checking", etc.) I still think there is something fishy about this
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it discusses how "Military officers, including the one who carried the nuclear football, unsuccessfully tried to prevent FBI agents from confiscating the suit, Reagan's wallet, and other possessions as evidence; the Gold Codes card was in the wallet, and the FBI did not return it until two days
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Is there any truth in the story that the football, along with the president's copy of the launch codes, was not present on Nixon's last flight in Air Force One prior to his resignation to eliminate the possibility of him staging a nuclear coup? I've herd this a couple of times but haven't found
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Ah, now this is a very interesting question, especially having in mind a curious concept in the 'unwritten' constitution of the UK, that of the Crown and royal prerogative - through which ministers including the Prime Minister derive their executive authority. The Prime Minister, acting in his
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The article you link describes a test. My guess would be that destruct facilities are only present for tests or, perhaps, are present on all missiles but are only enabled for test launches. That's only a guess though. I would also guess that destruct options are purposefully not available for
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I believe "Dropkick" referred to as how the briefcase came to be known as the "football" was the faux operation referred to by George C. Scott's character, General Buck Turgidson in Stanley Kubrick's film classic "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
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45 pounds (20 kg) seems very heavy, even if it is reinforced (with lead?). That's the maximum weight for a suitcase on some airlines. I wouldn't like to have to carry that around one-handed for long, especially while jogging with the President. Can anyone shed more light on this?
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citations. We can't just trust that the author did't make up the whole "Contents" section based on watching a few movies. Frankly, that may very well be the case. If the article were sourced, on the other hand, there would be no question as to the veracity of the information.
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colloquial term. Nuclear codes or gold codes as our article terms them are the most commonly referred term and the concept is very much deserving of its own article. If anything nuclear football should be merged there, however I don't think it should be done.
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In the Highlights section, the following sentence appears: "During their presidencies, Jimmy Carter always carried the launch codes in his jacket, while Ronald Reagan preferred to keep the launch codes in his wallet." The source cited for this statement is:
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I was thinking the same thing. The documents Bill describes can't weigh that much; any modern communications gear would only weigh at most a few more pounds. Maybe the bag contains Kevlar and plating that could be used to protect the comms and the carrier.
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So, the crucial figure is the secretary of defense, and his deputy. Which is why they're always very experienced military figures. They can actually refuse the order, and set off a series of events that could get the president removed/impeached
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This article is full of speculation, original research and weasel words. It also lacks citations for important facts. I tagged it up fairly heavily because the wiki policy violations are so eggregious. Here are just a few of the issues with the
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The video claims that there is no recall mechanisms for a launched ICBM without any sources. This seems to indicate that there are, indeed, ways to terminate a launched Minuteman III (the only type of land-based ICBM in the USA's arsenal):
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Hope someone can at least find some citeable sources from those links! Also, the question of it ever being used to launch nukes... it was developed in the cold war, so obviously there are no reported cases of it being used to launch nukes.
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It's just a leather satchel. It shows the leather strap to connect it to the carriers wrist. This is probably what the un-sourced things from the article are based on. It is also possible that some of the information came from this show
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page needs serious help, but in the meantime, it looks like a train wreck now. I'm not sure how (if at all) any facts can be verified on something so classified, so I agree with you there, but... take it easy on the layout next time! :)
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and possible now that everyone in the Line of Succession had there own Football in case that they found there self in the time sensitive situation (30 min for and ICBM to hit or Six min if SLBM) and had to chose and issue a retaliatory
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Wasn't there something on here about how George W. Bush after 9/11 used the Football to review posssible evacuation plans? Also, if it was ever actually used to launch nukes, I don't think something like that would be kept secret for
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Are the contents of the nuclear football classified? If they are, then how can you write about its contents without wildly speculating? Furthermore, why doesn't someone verify that the contents are or are not classified instead of
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page since this briefcase is more commonly referred to as the Football rather than the Nuclear Football. Just thought that those of you who follow this topic might be interested if you have any comments concerning this matter.
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Since it was designed while Kennedy was in office, and the only time nuclear weapons have ever been used (besides tests) was in 1945... I'm guessing not. Of course it could have other non-nuclear functions, we don't know.
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The article's getting a bit swamped with all the fictional references - perhaps it could be trimmed down to a few lines to indicate that it's a widely used ploty theme? What are other peoples thoughts on this?
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bias in the article. I'm not American and its clear to me as a neutral outsider that someone has edited this article with the intention of portraying Bill Clinton as more of a clown than his IQ would suggest.
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later." One of these articles is has min-information, though it may be due to the lack of a source in this article. Does anyone have any further insight? Should we change the article to read similarly to the
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It says right in the section that the contents of the Football are highly classified. However, the section then goes on to make assumptions about what it contains. That sounds like patent speculation to me.
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strange one. And it reflects on the Trump presidency, given the social milieu which enabled some rich guy to have the photo taken, security bubble and all. All told, certainly notable enough for inclusion.
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in the event that the others in the line of Succession that fall before him or her are dead or out of contact. His or Her identity would need to be confirmed by the Secretary of Defense or one of his
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to declare someone as acting SecDef, which could hypothetically even be himself, thereby ensuring with certainty his orders will be made in a lawful manner. Grognard Extraordinaire
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would go to a vote within the cabinet. The cabinet could then vote against the military strike, which in essence, is a vote of no confidence in the commander-in-chief's sanity.
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Various sources reported that 36 Congressmembers called on Biden to give up his access to the nuclear football back in February 2021. Shouldn't that be covered in the article?
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Well there would be no way to prove that suitcase nukes exist. One would have to blow up first, and even then there would be official denials and censorship of reporting. -
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I don't think Duane from ABC Liquors can pick up the satcom and say, "Yeah, dude. Code x5793. Glass parking lot! Whoaahh!!" simply because he found the football. Relax.
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I believe launch authority rests with the PM, though I don't have anything offhand to say so. ("War Plan UK" probably would, but it's a few hundred miles away...)
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What is it called when a satchel is stuffed with an actual small nuclear bomb, as a non-survivable deterrent defense weapon, and not stuffed with launch codes? -
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I am just trying to work out why the article says it is a Zero Halliburton case when both the earlier link and the main photo to his profile show it is not.
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The above discussion from almost 16 years ago was never really resolved, and the answer isn't in the article. Does anybody know why it's called a football?
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The first place I can think of that I'd ever heard the use of the term 'football' ascribed to the presidential nuclear death satchel would be in the movie
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Saying the nuclear football "cannot fall into the wrong hands" seems inappropriate, or at the very least inappropriately worded, for a wikipedia article.
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Sure, if you can find a website or something that has more info on the USSR's (now Russia's) football, knock yourself out. I'm certainly interested.
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I don't know if these images are allowed to be used, but they are pictures of something in the Smithsonian(which is allowed for public use).
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The officer is armed on his left side. You could not have the fun on your right side if you are holding the football. Also in this article
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I agree with you. If you want to trim down things in the article to stuff that is from fiction or based on speculation more power to you.
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I think the pop culture references should stay as-is. At least until I or someone else has the heart to do a full fledged article on that
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Should this be mentioned in popular culture? It seems that wasn't actually the Nuclear Football, but instead something similar.
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This is stated in the article, but not entirely true. There are, in theory ways a president's cabinet could stop the order:
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This is a logical assumption since, by the Federal Communication Commission's own official description, the EAS is...
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The first sort of makes sense. I'm altering it and putting it back. The second was definitely put there by a troll.
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Contrary to popular belief, the Football does not contain the daily revisions of the nuclear launch codes...
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that mean that there are two footballs? Or is the football not with the President during these events?
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Since all this is so incredibly classified, how can we reliably know any of what is in this article?
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The President has sole aurhority and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has no command role. Idiots
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I think it's because it's the most popular name devised for it -- it officially doesn't have one.
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Perhaps the worry is that someone will steal it to try to prevent or delay a nuclear attack? --
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And why the hell is the fate of the nation's nuclear arsenal entrusted to a suitcase?!?!?!?
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Gotta agree there. In case you haven't noticed, no-one cares about US patriots in Britain.
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http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/tv_guide/full_details/Technology/programme_2236.php
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USSR premiers and Russian presidents also have "footballs". This should be also reflected.
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The case itself is a metallic, possibly bullet-resistant, modified Zero Halliburton...
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Some accounts assert that the case contains equipment and protocols for activating...
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Secretary of Defense does not have to comply with the Commander in Chief's order
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This article states the President is accompanied with the Football, however the
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Is there anything known about an Israeli equivalent of the "nuclear football"?--
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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The section currently named highlights should be changed to Interesting facts?
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Another common misconception is that the Football is handcuffed to its carrier.
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about this 5th thing in the satchel? I imagine it's not just a cell phone. --
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launch codes, and probably the presidents fingerprint. Lame, totally lame. --
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The author appears to be a man named Martin Bodek. I found his home page at:
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Fictionally, "nuclear briefcase" has been popular, which Knowledge terms a "
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all going down at once this is recorded and presented on internal screen.
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You aren't a former US Navy submariner or you won't be asking this question
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However, I don't really have any sources to confirm this, just intuition.
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pilot episode yankee white. It is also featured prominantly in the novel
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How do we know that's "the football" and not a regular briefcase?
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A small antenna, presumably for the SATCOM radio, protruding...
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it is mentioned that the football is not attached to the arm.
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Has this thing ever been used? Or are we not allowed to know?
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that they are? In the Knowledge world, assumptions are evil!
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reeeeal nice like, they might be willing to give us one :)
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Discussion? If nobody appears to respond, I'll put it in.
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section. I haven't even gone through the other ones.
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There is a duplication of information on each page.
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Seven Days in May
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Duckdid
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Old Right
Howboutpete
20:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
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21:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
RedHillian
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