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issue. I remember as a Texan and as a person with links to "foreigners," being bothered by people's reaction to the word "refugee." People said things like, "These aren't 'refugees,' these are U.S. citizens!" Some people's comments even seemed to imply that calling them refugees would have somehow made it OK to care less about them, or that it would mark them as inferior somehow (or perhaps more helpless?). In retrospect (and seeing what the article does say), there may have been a concern that people would class "refugees" with "those helpless people in other countries that we can't do much about" or also that the term "refugee" (associated in many news stories of the time with those fleeing wars in Africa) was somehow tied to the race of many who were fleeing. It was if people considered it a distancing term, but also as if it were some kind of epithet, the way people reacted.
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I'd call others' attention to it and see what y'all come up with ... it seems to me that the first paragraph merits inclusion — obviously, one would first modify the blanket statement that implies all evacuees or all those who found work went to
Houston — while the second paragraph starts getting so individually specific as to be highly out of place in a general article about larger social effects of the hurricanes. Maybe we could take just the first sentence from the second paragraph and use it to elaborate the previous paragraph (i.e., giving examples of industries in Houston that hired large numbers of evacuees?).
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Katrina. I do know, and it is easily verifiable that the city of Gulfport is still under martial law. Testimonials of people i know who live and have worked recently in that area, which means little without actual documentation, paint a grimmer picture. If there is an end based on evidence that is out there, it will be because of displacement. My major concern is that there is absolutely nothing else in the article that pertains to that claim and as far as I am concerned it sounds like disinformation. Please support it or delete it. 15:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC) Heather N. Edwards, University of Arkansas
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September 11. However, it is also possible that the event will simply fade from people's thoughts, much as the Indonesian tsunami appears to have. After all, for those living in New York or California or Iowa, the Gulf Coast may as well be Indonesia. There will also be significant overlap between the social, political, and economic effects, and this should be documented as well. --
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more general tropical weather articles. It should be broader and include the impacts of people on the
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I don't think it ought to be merged with another article. I appreciate having separate pages for the separate spheres of influence. As for being POV, the article discusses a "perceived" laxity in response - and it seems to me that it's a fact that many "peceive" laxity of response, whether one exists
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The edit summary said that these two paragraphs were removed because "not all evacuees went to
Houston." To me, that's not a justification for cutting the whole section, but rather for editing it to be more accurate. I was trying to think how to edit the section to make it fit better, but I thought
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I've been asked to adopt this article by the director of Levees.org. I think the long-term goal of this article should be to provide a factual account of the widespread social and psychological dislocation caused the the flood of New
Orleans. I don't believe the article should be merged with other,
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The intro has a claim for the future which is not supported anywhere else in the article: "the effect will likely be an end to some of the most impoverished neighborhoods in the United States, and end to a large degree the cycle of self-perpetuating poverty contained therein." I am not an expert on
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is very short sighted. "Americans" may have forgotten, but "people", roughly 1.5 billion of them remember. Remember that most of victims from this tusnami lacks access to internet or sufficient knowledge in
English to contribute to wikipedia. Their experiences are simply undocumented and not widely
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I came to this article thinking it would have more than it did on the whole controversy over the evacuees being called "refugees" in early stories. I haven't yet gotten to check out the NPR link given at the end of the article, but I'd like to see the article itself give a line or two more to this
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This article should ultimately constitute a continuing record of the social trauma resulting from
Hurricane Katrina - both to individuals, and to society as a whole. It is likely that those who suffered the worst of it will have continuing problems recovering from the experience to which they have
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In summary, the whole discussion was such a big discussion of semantics and their implications that it deserves a tiny bit more space in the article, if only as a historical record. It's certainly not the biggest social effect of
Katrina (and some would argue it distract-s/-ed from "real" issues,
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Given their closeness in time and location, it strikes me that it will soon become difficult to separate the respective economic, political, and social effects of Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Rita. How would my fellow editors feel about moving the articles covering these aspects to
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is being considered for deletion. One of the proposals being made there is to abbreviate the material and transplant it to this article. In the event this proposal should reflect community consensus, I'm crafting a paragraph to that purpose and placing it here.
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This article does not seem to be a record of the social trauma which, in any case, is difficult to define and could be best addressed on one of the many other pages dealing with the fallout from Katrina. I see now there are separate articles for
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to the effect that normally disasters bring out the best in people, but this one seems to have brought out the worst in people. I can't seem to find it now, but if anyone comes across it, I think it belongs in this article. Cheers!
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