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is not much of note to say about her, but we have a big image of her to try make her more important. And with the Williams/Bettany one, I could understand if there was an image of what Williams was going to look like with the intended CGI but at the moment it is just two pictures of actors, one that is not in the movie and one that is also not that significant in the article like Clarke. I definitely think the picture of Clarke should go, and it is more of a strong recommendation that the pictures of Williams and Bettany be taken out as well. Especially now that the image of the Slow Mo Guys has been added. -
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The images all look fine, but I feel like there may be too many of them crammed into the "Production" section. I think the images of Williams and Bettany could definitely go, the character just doesn't seem to justify that much attention and the situation is already explained fine in prose. The image
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this sentence could be expanded to better explain the technique that was used and how (the cited source has more details). I also wonder if it would be worth having some sort of "Post-production and visual effects" subsection since the next two paragraphs don't really fit in the "Filming" section and
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Also some editors have weird reactions to anything other than Critics being included in the critical response section, I'd like the Other responses/Industry response/Star Wars response to have its own subsection (and because otherwise it makes the Critical response section seem longer than it really
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I have removed the Clarke image. As for the double image, unless it's a dealbreaker for GA, I would still prefer to retain it. Like I said earlier, the recasting was a major alteration to the original plan for the film. I would consider looking for concept art of Williams' planned character if there
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I guess it just feels to me like there are a lot of images in a short space in the article, and it could benefit from having a bit of breathing room and just focusing on having less images that are all most applicable to the page. My problem with the Clarke one is that according to the article there
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I'm using the Earwig tool. The highest percentage violation was of the Popmatters review. I elected to remove the review as the critic isn't of note. The others are below 40% and I feel looking at them they are put as well as can be to make the point of what is being written. Could be wrong though,
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I’d like to keep the Williams/Bettany one. It makes a point of noting that the villain character was different than the final product. IE Williams leaving the film and Bettany replacing him. It’s probably the second biggest alteration to the film I feel benefits from the image of the two different
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The lead has several citations in it, and I can see that they are mostly associated to elements that have proven controversial over the years. Do you think any of these can be removed now? For instance, is anyone still questioning when the film is set or does that ref definitely need to be there?
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All of this is unsourced in the body, but a source supporting this is included in the infobox for Scalia. Also, the context in which that source explains Scalia replacing Dickens indicates that it had to do with Lucasfilm's general displeasure of the initial directors and their direction for the
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Since you mention Chewbacca and Lando earlier in the lead I think it would make sense to note their actors as you do with Han, maybe like "Alden Ehrenreich stars as Han Solo alongside Woody Harrelson, Emilia Clarke, Donald Glover (Calrissian), Thandie Newton, Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Joonas Suotamo
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Thanks for adding a bit more about Glover. I think that review from The Atlantic is worth including too because it succinctly critiques the script and the direction, and I might add it myself soon. With hindsight perhaps highlighting Clark might be undue, compared to Glover who was consistently
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in which the starship was described as having "the most peculiar dialect". Screenwriter Jonathan Kasdan explained that this was done to give "the Falcon a personality that is fused with this amazing character played by Phoebe I think does actually enrich the other
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The lead mentions three different release dates. Even two seems like a stretch in terms of long-term notability, but I understand if you want to match the infobox and have the first premiere there as well as wide release. But two premieres feels like overkill to
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References are looking good, but I would like to see all online sources have archives (most do but there are a few that don't) to ensure they can always be accessed in the future. Also, there are some inconsistencies with linking to websites (i.e.
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I think the cast section should make note of how L3 becomes part of the Falcon and what that means for when C-3PO talks to the ship in the original film. A quick google search of "l3 falcon" brought up a few decent sources that you could use for
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actors. As for Clarke it was just to highlight her casting in the role to add some additional images to the page. If I had the editing abilities I would’ve made a picture collage of the main cast for the cast section then include an image of
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Can this be adjusted to not imply that Johnston was already working on the film? It is my understanding that the second clause is only referencing Kasdan since he was writing the film, but the current wording is a little unclear on
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I restored the separate visual effects section and added in some details about how they achieved the effect of the mountain explosion. For the specific Falcon information you suggested I’m not finding a good source for that.
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Before expanding the section further, I'd like to make sure that there is at least some agreement that more detail would be better, and that this GA is not misinterpreted as a reason to not keep improving the article. --
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The Critical response section feels a little short to me, and only gives a very broad overview, I think more coverage is needed. The section includes a picture saying Glover was praised but no specific references to that
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I think this sentence can be rewritten to be a bit clearer. Perhaps something along the lines of: "In May 2017, filming took place in Italy, with locations including ... Filming also took place in the Canary Islands that
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of Clarke is also iffy to me, especially when the article only mentions her in the cast and casting sections. The images of Ehrenreich, Lord and Miller, Howard, Glover, and Cannes all make sense and work for me.
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Phoebe Waller-Bridge as L3-37: Lando's droid companion and navigator. When the character dies in the film her consciousness and data are uploaded to the Millenium Falcon which serves as a retcon of the previous
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A few points listed above to work on. Let me know once you have worked through everything or if you have any questions or concerns. I will come back and have another look at the article once you are done. -
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fan and do a lot of work on these sorts of articles but actually haven't gotten involved with this one yet. I'll take some time to read through it and then come back here with some thoughts. -
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Using the copyvio tool, there are a few "Violation Possible" results coming back. It would be good to get them down to "Violation Unlikely" by rewriting some of the information used from them.
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film. Any extra editing information you could find would also fit there, and maybe discussion of the film's design of the Falcon since it starts out quite different from previous films.
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Was an English reference used for the information cited to the ladige.it site, or just google translate? If the former then that article could be included in the citation as support.
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Joe Johnston and Kasdan were also considered, though Directors Guild of America rules state that a replacement for a director may not be someone already involved in the production.
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I just meant that if another source with an English translation was used to help source the info from that site then it could be added in the citation, but it's not a big deal. -
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I took the source and added in the information about the 60 different designs, as well as a bit about the addition of an escape pod and it's connection to the lead designer.
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In May 2017, filming moved to Tre Cime di Lavaredo and Monte Piana in the Dolomites in Veneto, Italy, to the Fassa Dolomites in Trentino, Italy, and to the Canary Islands.
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The article is looking a lot better now. I am happy with the changes made and think the current state is a good compromise. Thank you for working with me on this
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recently, I think WebCite may not be running at the moment. I think there is also a bot that can be used but I don't know anything else about that. -
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is only linked in a few citations, but we can't know which refs readers will want to access it from so it should be linked from the all if possible).
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I'm assuming that the Kasdan mentioned throughout the "Filming" section is Lawrence, but can we clarify that in the first instance for the section?
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Also, the refs that are supposed to be supporting the film being a box-office failure should come after that info and not after the Oscars line.
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On this front, it’s been known to be referred to either title. Same with Rogue One. I believe it’s there to make that distinction.
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I don't know if I totally agree with all this, but I would support adding more mention of GLover to the critical response section
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From what I could find there didn’t seem to be any further mentions of the allegation after Disney announced their investigation.
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film. Maybe the Scalia info can be worked in with the next paragraph or expanded in its current paragraph with more details.
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The note beside John Williams in the infobox is unsourced, you should be able to copy some refs from the "Music" section.
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Coverage and neutrality look pretty good but definitely a few things that I would like to see improved before promoting:
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I think the last two paragraphs of the "Critical response" section can be combined since the first is just one sentence.
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releases of the film? If not then I think this should be left out of the lead and just discussed in the release section.
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I changed it to simply state Ehrenreich stars in the title role, with the other main cast co-starring. Will this work?
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are the same thing and shouldn't need to be stated like this in the lead. For another example, there are times in
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Feel free to do with that how you wish, just something that stuck out to me as missing from the article. -
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I included an English source in regards to Italy filming alongside the in Italian source. Does this work?
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Was there any follow-up to the plagiarism allegations that could be added to the "Marketing" subsection?
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or something in Casting to describe the casting process needing to match a young Ford or something.
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is one online to use. But the Bettany image does visually reflect the change in casting as well.
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Any more details on the comic book adaptation, such as who the writer and artist were?
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and to the Canary Islands. Lucasfilm replaced editor Chris Dickens with Pietro Scalia.
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Knocked a chunk of these out tonight, will do some more tomorrow hopefully.
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there is surely a lot more information about visual effects out there for a
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I added a line that makes the DGA portion refer to Kasdan specifically.
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Has WebCite changed? I can't seem to find where to do the archiving.
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This explanation seems out of place and irrelevant in this article.
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I'm a little lost on this point. Could you explain it a bit more?
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Is this necessary? Surely the reader doesn't need to be told that
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The plot summary is well over the 700 word limit suggested by
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I’ve added the clarifying Lawrence throughout the section.
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that seems like it has quite a bit of good info in it. -
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Shaved the premieres off and just kept the main release.
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Good work so far, I have added some replies above. -
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Looks like a source is needed for the Saturn Awards.
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which could be used for something along these lines:
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Is there anything particularly noteworthy about the
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