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dark humor about how people are sheep-like and only see what they want to see. There really aren't many science fiction underpinnings here. It's not really about the technology, nor the plot device (it could have been omitted, and the "plot" of
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I think this is better off on it's own myself. The other stuff that does the same thing as an SEP really doesn't seem like it fits. I mean, we shouldn't put Star Trek stuff in the same category, even if both of them make a spaceship invisible. The SEP is mostly just a unique bit of
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When reading this article, I see a lot of links referring to 'fictional mechanisms' that do the same thing as the SEP. I'd really like to put up an article about the usefulness of SEP-like technologies and the alternatives, and all the situations and shows it occurs in. It would be a good starting
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I tried to clean up the grammar a bit, and clarify some of the main points. I also removed the bit about how the spaceship's drive was powered and who owned it. It detracted a bit from the main points of the article, but it would be great to have a link to that information. Do we have a page on
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Somebody Else's Problem field, but they are not so
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look directly at it; rather than being influenced to filter it out, you subconciously look away. (In the book they deduce a
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As you can see, it is very similar to the
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