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English but I try to learn as much of her language as I can. When she got married she sent me (and, I suppose, all the newlyweds' friends) a postcard mentioning "lipiec" as the date. I still have to check this page to see that it means July. Similarly, what does "listopad" mean? Well, it depends where you are: in Russia it just means leaf-fall, in some countries (mostly in the Balkans) it means October, and in others (from Ukraine to the Baltic sea) it is November. I suppose that our Latin names feel just as foreign to my cleaning lady as her Polish month names feel to me. At least a single Latin-derived month name is not used with different meanings by different people.
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I'm looking for resources with the meanings of all the other names for the different months used throughout the Slavic language continuum, then I'm going to create a section called "Origin" or "Meaning" or something similar, where I'll compile all the different ways of saying each month, and what
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Another thing which feels foreign to me in Polish are the names of declension cases: the
Russian names are literal translations of the Latin ones which I learnt in secondary school 60 years ago (even винительный "accusative" from винить "to accuse"); not so in Polish. —
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