Talk:Silent Night/Archive 1

273:"The song was sung simultaneously in English and German by troops during the Christmas truce of 1914, as it was one of the few carols that soldiers on both sides of the front line knew." - This may be more urban myth than fact. Rifleman Graham Williams quoted in Brown and Seaton's book, Christmas Truce, says of the Germans singing Stille Nacht: 'This was actually the first time I heard this carol, which was not then so popular in this country as it has since become'. He says O Come All Ye Faithful was the hymn which both sides started singing together and our own research of soldiers' letters reprinted in UK papers (www.christmastruce.co.uk) suggests Home Sweet Home was the song that mellowed the troops most - as it apparently did 50 years earlier during the American Civil War! - Alan Cleaver 575:, then it's certainly true for your own website. (And if it's an open wiki, then it's generally not allowed as an external link at all, except in quite limited circumstances). If the material isn't original research, and is verifiable, then the thing to do is not to link to it, but to make it a part of the encyclopedia directly. In this case, the editor interested in the files is going to work on uploading them to Wikimedia commons, and then add the links in to the articles, which is unquestionably the ideal thing all round. 1864:. It is interesting that the info at this link states that the organ was playable which contradicts what the IP is trying to add. It also mentions that the first time that hungry mouse damage is mentioned comes from Hertha Pauli in 1954. That could be worth a mention and would help to offset any editors who want to state it as fact. The info about Mohr's skull is also interesting but probably not relevant to this article. I look forward to reading what other editors think. 31: 1965: 1521:

the article's "External links" section) different from the one here? If you're referring to the awkward melisma on "traute heilige Paar" – that's not how it's sung in Germany today, but "traute hochheilige Paar" for its better flow. d) I can't comment on whether a 4-verse version is used much in English. If it is, it ought to added. --

2121:) 00:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)The two lines of music headed "First edition" are in fact identical to the second (with a few minor differences of musical orthography). Could someone undertake to transcribe from the original manuscript as imaged here, showing the penultimate line a third lower, and the repeated last line? 160:

remember only the first one, which goes "Stille nacht, heilege nacht, alles schlaft, Einsam wacht, nur das Heilege Eltern Paar, das im Stalle zu Bethlehem war, bei dem himmlischen Kind, bei dem himmlischen kind." How did it happen that those Germans brought a variant version over to the U.S. in the 19th century?

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a) As others have pointed out, the German lyrics are regularly used in the English-speaking world, so they ought to be kept. b) Only the three German verses shown overleaf are used in Germany; the original verses 3 to 5 are broadly unknown. c) How is the text at stillenacht.at (which is now twice in

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A few problems with the lyrics. First, there are only three verses of each. The original German version has six verses and the John Freeman Young has four verses. Second, the German version doesn't really help much for the majority of users on the English project. Without a direct translation of the

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I agree fully with the above comment. There are some editors here on Knowledge that claim that if any prominent singer puts out a version of this song, that version should be included on that page. But I also know that in the studies I have done about religious Christmas hymns, the general consensus

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I'm not sure that we need to confirm the notability down the song level, but if that's the best way, then determining if the single charted would be the correct way of determining that. Quite often, the song is simply included in an album and not released as a single though so this would drastically

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Will it be better that perhaps we can amend the structure of the recordings section? I think it might make sense to have the recordings listed in different groups. We should have them listed under artist and album, and yet we should sort them into English recordings, German recordings and recordings

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The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, whose member were German speakers in the 19th century, had a different set of lyrics, which are used today in some of their churches even though services are in English. They were printed in a Youth Hymnal in the 1890s. I believe all the verses were different, but

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Not sure what you mean - the text is almost the same as the one currently in the German article. The only differences are some spelling variations, (because the German article clings closer to the original spelling) and the difference between "Gnade" (grace) and "Gnaden" (its plural), which is both

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I am curious as to what is wrong with this link that it keeps getting removed. It's obviously not spam, considering it is a valid link and is in reference to the article. But what's wrong with posting a link to your own website? For example, let's say I discover a new type of frog, and I want to

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Not only do I agree that the recordings section be removed as it is woefully incomplete and ridiculously selective, but I would also query why a reference to a Damien Rice cover "With modified lyrics" is in the Trivia section and yet a reference to the Simon and Garfunkel cover -- with the original

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that was recently added claims, or not, the net effect of the recent edits is that a very weak statement was added, "It has been claimed that that Mohr wanted to give the population of Oberndorf a simple song in German with guitar accompaniment." This is so banal and based on an obscure source, it

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Asked and answered, Walter. The consensus is to retain them; in order to remove any form of German lyrics from this article you'll have to gain a consensus. We use the modern lyrics in the article because there's no reason to have lyrics that are not currently in use while omitting the widely used

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To further comment here, it makes sense to have equal numbers of verses in both German and English. As Michael Bednarek has pointed out, two of the original five German verses are unknown and unused; and as I have pointed out, only three verses are normally sung in English. Moreover, right now the

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I've noticed that, for whatever reason, for the past several decades only three verses of any given Christmas carol are published in collections. I'm not sure why this is (it used to annoy me greatly), but there it is. It's also the case that vocalists only sing three verses of any given Christmas

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I don't see any of those things as a problem, and I enjoy having the German lyrics here. Many English speakers are interested in the German lyrics and many in fact know them a bit and sing them from time to time, and many English-language recording artists often include the German version on their

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Actually, that's already not allowed. :) But I understand the general point. There is an inherent conflict of interest between the desire to help readers of the encyclopedia find what they are interested in (good) and to use the encyclopedia as a way of getting people interested in/using your own

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in the "On this day" section on December 24th, so I figured editors here might be interested in improving it before then. There are no major issues with it that I can see, but it's also rather short and I feel certain it could be significantly expanded if interested editors had a go at it. I'd be

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You could be right Gerda but the legend wasn't mentioned in the source they provided. As to whether something that did not exist until 1954 can be considered a legend I suspect that will be interpreted differently by each editor/reader. I know this article is on a few active editors watchlists so

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Why has nobody noticed that the presented German lyrics are riddled with error? Referring to the German page Stille Nacht, a German Hymnal, and my own knowledge of the German Song, this presentation is obviously wrong. I don't know whether this is some sort of original text or if the writer was

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On December 28, 2006 I obtained an interlibrary loan of "Carols for Christmas Tide," edited by the Rev. J. Freeman Young, published in New York by Daniel Dana, Jr. in 1859. The first of the seven carols in this 16-page collection was Young's "Silent Night! Holy Night!" This is, to the best of my

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Is there some reason that the section on the lyrics can't be improved rather than removed? I would also note that there isn't any mention of the four verse version in the article at the moment. There is sourced info about the six verse version and it mentions that the three verses are the "most

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I don't see that Wikisource has anything to do with this article one way or another, except possibly as a reference/citation/EL. There's no reason to remove any information/text/lyrics from this article simply because it exists, in part or in whole or in a different or more complete form, on

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Rev. John Freeman Young (1820-1885) translated three verses of "Stille Nacht" when he was assistant rector at Trinity Church (Episcopal) in New York City (1860-67). His version of the 1st, 6th, and 2nd verses of Joseph Mohr's original text first appeared in 1863 when it was published in "The

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Because the original German version is twice as long, the layout will never be perfect. An anonymous editor just aligned the English version to the top, which is a matter of taste, but it does increase the impression that the German version corresponded verse by verse with the English

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I think there's room for all three versions on this page. The American version is not wholly traditional either and has some slightly daring harmonies – nothing wrong with daring. The Schumann-Heink version is the version least easy to most ears; I wouldn't mind if it were removed. --

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I didn't actually ask anything so. I was responding to the question as to whether we should go with the modern lyrics or original. I stated my opinion. I was not the editor who removed the lyrics and I suspect that when that editor stumbles onto this article, it will happen here as

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Why are there Portuguese lyrics? English, okay, it's the English Knowledge. German, okay, it was originally written in German. But the article says it is sung in 300 languages... why do we show Portuguese over any of the other 297? I'd say just leave the English and German lyrics.

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I've made amendments to some of the recordings I've listed and deleted some that might not be notable enough for this article. Will it be better that we tracked down the names of the albums from where these recordings came from? It might show people that we have been researching.

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should be removed. As for the source given by Gerda, it could be the basis for a whole new section or spin-off article, although I suspect that most of it is of very limited interest to English-language readers. Even the DE article mentions them only summarily in passing. --

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Is it true that the English version first became popular/was first created during the First World War, when German troops were singing the German version in the trenches, and the British troops heard it and translated it into English, or is this just an urban myth?

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There's no evidence anywhere that this one carol prompted the Christmas Truce, and the title of the book, while obviously an echo title, refers to the fact that there was no shooting over Christmas, rather than referring only or specifically to this carol.

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Sunday-School Service and Tune Book." These are the same three verses that are used today in English-language hymnals. Rev. Young later became the second Episcopal Bishop of Florida (1867-85). His grave is in the Old City Cemetery in Jacksonville, Florida.

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by a given popular music artist (e.g. on a compilation) but have no idea from what album (if any) it originated. On this basis, what reasonable criteria can we use to determine whether a given version is notable enough to be worthy of inclusion? —

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Should we restrict the list? If so, how? It would be good to restrict recent entries to those where both the artist and album have articles. This would confirm notability of both individually. Although it doesn't guarantee the popularity of either.

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Some recording dates might be unknown, or imprecise. Sometimes we'll only have years instead of dates of recording, or dates of release instead of dates of recording. Dates also require citations, whereas alphabetical only requires an ability to

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lyrics but backing from the news -- was apparently removed some time back. In all honesty, who the hell cares about Damien Rice? What makes him better than anyone else who has ever recorded the song that he be mentioned in the trivia section...?

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Notability of an album does not equate to notability of a particular track on it. It might not even have been released on an album - your suggestion would preclude listing of such recordings. In either case, one might know of a recording of

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I agree with the first guy... The Trivia section is pointless, and the last statement has been taken out by me because it's just ridiculous. Every Christmas carol has mondegreens. Not only that, but the Damien Rice cover isn't really notable.

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Wikisource has the "modern" lyrics. I don't see why we need them in the article (and I don't see why we need them in the article at all). I did see lyrics removed from other Christmas carol articles for this very reason over the past week.

2061:, why are nine separate chart tables with one or two entries a better way to present the info than a simple bulleted list as in the preceding "In film" section? The artists aren't even linked (although one doesn't have a WP article). — 983:

That version is beautiful! But after listening to a few seconds from the (English) U.S. Army one, I realized you're right - beautiful or not, they aren't the harmonies we normally associate with the song. I removed it from the page.

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I think the text in the original autograph (given below in the article) and the first edition (which I added) are probably worth mentioning in the article, since they probably had the composer's involvement; but not other variations.

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The other six carols in this publication include: "Earth Today Rejoices," "Good Christian Men Rejoice," "Here Is Joy For Every Age," "Earthly Friends Will Change And Falter," "Royal Day That Chasest Gloom," and "Good King Wenceslas."

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I tend to agree, but there's probably certain recording that are worth being mentioned if they meet objective criteria, such as selling a certain number of copies or appearing on a Billboard or other international music chart.

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includes "If a list is simple, it is generally better to use one of the standard Knowledge list formats instead of a table. Lists are easier to maintain than tables, and are often easier to read." With these in mind:... For

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Excellent point. The tables are likely there because there are table-based templates, that have the details and reference embedded, but the details could be represented in prose, but should not be blanked entirely.

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If you are going to talk about the history of Stille Nacht (Silent Night), then you should also have a copy of the original song version with all six verses included instead of jumping from verse 1 to verse 6.

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knowledge, the earliest publication of this classic translation of "Stille Nacht! Heilige Nacht!" As I understand the history of this carol, it was earlier thought that the first publication was in 1863.

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When I load this page, the "History" section begins with, "Sarah has been with her hottiesThe carol..." I went to edit it, but there, the text is clean. Someone with technical skill, please look into it.

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hopefully they will add their thoughts. As you point out we might get more input as Christmas approaches. If not we could make a request at the wikiprojects that are attached to the page. Regards.

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I have seen contents of lyrics and other short pieces removed because they are in Wikisource, but I don't see a policy or guideline to support it. As for current German lyrics, the orginal

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I've tagged this section and plan to take a razor to in a couple weeks. We should only list recordings that are somehow notable, not just every time somebody records the song.

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it is not a "defining characteristic" of any of their careers. Thus, a specific singer's category (even Enya's Gaelic version which I enjoy) does not belong with this article.

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I suggest the section be removed. It's not feasible to list the thousands of recordings of this tune. The main use of this list is probably for spam and self-promotion.

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advises that tables "should be used only when appropriate; sometimes the information in a table may be better presented as prose paragraphs or as an embedded list" and

1827: 950: 1936:. I appreciate your time in looking at things. Please feel free to remove it. I only tried to paraphrase what was in the source as Google Translate presented it. 1608:, so if we are going to retain that we need to change the header (which now says "Mohr's German lyrics") to indicate that we are quoting modern lyrics instead. 645:

This information was posted to the Christmas International Group at Yahoo on Dec. 29, 2006 (Message 6253), and subsequently to the Silent Night Group at Yahoo.

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It may or may not be true. SOme sources say Silent Night wasn't popular in the US until after the First World War, where US troops heard the Germans sing it.

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As for the second issue, the artist is not from the album, the artist recorded the song and released it on the album. It would be better formatted "Artist

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I agree that the heading "Mohr's German lyrics" is inappropriate (the interested reader can find them at the linked German Wikisource entry). The article

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among others. I too oppose their removal but would fully support any improvements to the lyrics section as well as added info about the various versions.

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which are different than the German version we have. There have been many instances of removing content, particularly lyrics, if they are in Wikisource.

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OK, we include the German version because it was the original. We include the English because it's the English Wiki. Why do we have Dutch and Gaelic?

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has to be putting a limit on what versions are featured on such sections and that this should be regulated. I share that feeling completely. Thanks. --

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Point taken. So as you have expanded this topic to references, you're saying that a researcher may not post to Knowledge, only to their own websites?

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I'd have thought the Nazis were smart enough not to try to tamper with the lyrics of Silent Night... at least not before the Final Victory.--

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for the version now commonly used. We could do the same and simply use "German lyrics" as the heading, or omit a heading as it's obvious. --

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This is just me being a stickler, but can we put them in chronlogical order please! I'll do a few, but I'm only on here for about 3 minutes.

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What Wikisource does or does not contain is not a consequential factor in determining the appropriate content for an encyclopaedia article.

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I trimmed the anonymous & rarely-seen fourth verse from the English version, to leave the three aligned German & English verses. —

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The first known publication of John Freeman Young translation, "Silent Night, Holy Night" was in 1859, not 1863 are previously believed.

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Hi, I was the one who reverted that edit as vandalism - and you must have been looking at it about the same time I was taking that out.

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carol on their albums. Maybe "Silent Night" is an exception to this since the verses are so short, but looking at the fourth verse now

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Given we already have the lyrics in wikisource, do we still need to keep the English lyrics in the article? Would it be redundent? --

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Should the altered Nazi version of "Silent Night" wehich makes no mention to anything religious be included or at least mentioned? --

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The English one is not a direct translation of that version; placing them side by side will mislead some readers into thinking it is.

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write a wiki abut it. I would most likely list my own website as an external link so people could read about the frog's discovery.

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It's gone. The information has been incorporated into other sections. (Or discarded - LBJ liking the song is really irrelevant.)

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Not necessarily. But I have just created a redirect page so whoever is looking for the song under its German title will find it.

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Some of my favorite recorded versions include the fourth verse. Of course, those versions are several decades old themselves. --

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Since we can always point to the German page, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better to remove the German version altogether. —

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verses in the wiki article match up perfectly in terms of translation, so that's another reason not to change anything.

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happy to help out, of course, but as this isn't remotely my field I fear I have very little to contribute. Any takers?

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frequently sung" ones. As to their being on wikisource that is not a reason for there removal from this article per

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six verses, it's incomprehensible to most readers. Finally, the lyrics are in wikisource. I propose removing them.

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Just to get this on the record this song has been sung by thousands if not millions of people over the years. Per

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Because they are relatively short, and people looking up this article would most likely expect to see the lyrics?

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Sorry, I'll read before I edit in future, but in chronological order seems to make more sense than Alphabetical

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There aren't six versed in common English versions, and the original lyrics are better suited to wikisource. --

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I've removed this newly added paragraph from the History section as lacking complete accuracy or relevance:

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http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/Notes_On_Carols/silent_night_holy_night_notes.htm

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I too think there's room for three versions on the page, so why do you insist on removing the second? --

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I can't comment on whether a 4-verse version is used much in English. If it is, it ought to added.

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Wikisource. The two projects are different and separate, the same way Commons and Wikidata are.

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That said - do we really need the original 6 verse version? There are several problems with it:

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They're both in German. The new version uses unconventional harmonies and should be removed. --

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Kiyoshi kono yoru hoshi wa hikari sukui nomiko wa mabune no naka ni nemuri tamo-o. itoyasuku.

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Kiyoshi kono yoru miko no emi ni, megumi no miyo no ashita no hikari kagayakeri, hogarakani.

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Kiyoshi kono yoru mitsuge ukeshi makibitotachi wa miko no mimae ni nukazukinu, kashikomite.

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addresses it pretty well and so the local consensus is now against community consensus.

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Chronology hasn't affected the song itself at all. It's a somewhat meaningless metric.

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First known publication of John Freeman Young translation, "Silent Night, Holy Night."

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Yes, my suggestion could preclude the inclusion of some entries, but not many.

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Good catch, thanks. I've replaced "sprightly, dance-like" with "moderato". —

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site (bad). Suppose you write an article about frogs and it's published in

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The category appears to have been added when the infobox was added in this

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As far as an encyclopedic value of the modern lyrics versus the original,

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Recently an IP changed "Mohr's German lyrics" to "Modern German lyrics"

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good that we have a solo performance in addition to the choral ones. –

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writing it incorrectly from memory, but something needs to be done.

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To which extent should we report the legends around this carol? See

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This article has four sound illustrations. Why is it categorized in

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File:Festliches Konzert - Bekannte Weihnachtslieder Stille Nacht.ogg

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An arrangement for Guitar, Flute and Violin for free use in services

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The sheet music (and cover) have been scanned and can be seen at:

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Propose to implement as follows if there are no objections.

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OSE doen't apply in this case. This is a wikisource issue.

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So we're all agreed, then? Putting the third one back. –

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http://www.visit-salzburg.net/travel/silentnightlyrics.htm

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Sounds of the Season: The Taylor Swift Holiday Collection

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in other languages (including multilingual renditions).

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as the most relevant Wikiprojects with recent activity.)

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Gruber's original ... was a sprightly, dance-like tune

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Sorry, I really disagree with this, for two reasons:

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Silent Night: The Remarkable Christmas Truce of 1914

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How remove category but keep infobox? -- 813:I don't know why it is formatted "Artist 1447:But both sets of lyrics are incomplete. 711: 1960:s 200th anniversary is on December 24th 1457:six in German, with English translation 1332: 202:What are the lyrics to Silent Night in 1971:(c. 1860) of the carol by Franz Gruber 147:When were the English lyrics written? 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 1824:2001:A61:260C:C01:91EA:BCEF:611B:6FAE 1757:Please be sure to sign your comments. 1429:Christmas albums. The same goes for " 7: 695:and it was mentioned equally on the 1602:, right now the wiki article reads 657:Notes concerning the carol are at: 327:Restructuring section on recordings 1218:on the history of the musical text 703:for the 24 and 25 of December... - 24: 2110:Transcription of original needed 1183:Is there a source for this? The 878:reduce the number of entries. -- 595:Bob the Wikipedian, a WikiDragon 553:Bob the Wikipedian, a WikiDragon 74:Shouldn't this page be moved to 29: 1945:03:46, 24 September 2018 (UTC) 1928:02:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC) 1905:20:30, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 1891:19:39, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 1873:19:20, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 1855:18:39, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 1832:14:03, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 1677:de:Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht 1402:02:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC) 1386:20:05, 11 September 2017 (UTC) 1250:13:10, 13 September 2016 (UTC) 1234:10:03, 13 September 2016 (UTC) 1: 2141:00:21, 18 December 2021 (UTC) 1778:20:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1752:19:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1727:18:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1712:09:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1695:08:06, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1667:05:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1636:00:38, 24 December 2017 (UTC) 1618:05:47, 14 December 2017 (UTC) 1584:01:18, 13 December 2017 (UTC) 1574:. 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