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more money and more material things, bills are going to be higher and debt may increase. Over the decade, “personal debt matched national debt in soaring new heights.” (Durning 33). Credit card usage has increased tremendously because of societal pressures to buy the newest commodity. Marketing companies are reaping the benefits from excellent persuasion tactics and the ‘buy now, pay later’ philosophy credit card companies promote. With all those new possessions, security measures, such as buglar alarm systems or security networks, are put into place which Americans “spent more on…than they paid through taxes for public polices.” (Durning 33). Practicing of anti-consumerism will avoid the slums of being in debt for frivolous accessories which are not needed to have a productive and fruitful life. Once the basic physical needs of an individual have been met, money plays little role in happiness and well-being. In Tim Kasser’s book, “The High Price of Materialism”, he argues that there is a high psychological cause for putting value on materialistic things. Those feelings have stemmed from societies pressure to continue a high consumer life-style. “People who strongly value the pursuit of wealth and possessions report lower psychological well-being than those who are less concerned with such aims” ( Kasser 5). Anti-Consumerists have realized that happiness can be found in more meaningful things. Material wealth is not sufficient in fulfilling emptiness. Higher levels of depression and anxiety have been proven in people who value financial success over other aspects of life. (Kasser 7). Those results support the idea that materialism is unhealthy. Less focus in school, on the job, during extracurricular activities and behavior disorders such as vandalizing were patterns revealed in young adults who centered aspirations around being rich. It has been said that "the making of money and the accumulation of things should not smother the purity of the soul, the life of the mind, the cohesion of the family, or the good of the society." Often times the more material possessions available, shifts in original attitude and behavior occur. Families may fall apart and excessive spending may lead one towards drugs or other avenues that harm bodies. The 'grassroots' awareness campaign, National Downshifting Week (UK) (founded 1995) encourages participants to positively embrace living with less. Campaign creator, British writer and broadcaster on downshifting and sustainable living, Tracey Smith says, "The more money you spend, the more time you have to be out there earning it and the less time you have to spend with the ones you love". In most cases, an increase in money means more work hours and more hours at a job will naturally increase stress and liquefy family bonds. People who focus on materialistic goals do so at the “expense” of others. “Materialistic values ‘crowd out’ meaningful pursuits.” ( Kasser 62). The time spent consuming goods is often neglectful of family and community. Many parents feel guilty about working long hours and how it impacts their children. They express their love and alleviate guilt by buying gifts for their children, therefore adding more fuel to the materialistic fire. (Kesser 63). The “love” that material things bring, encompasses children minds and leads them to a life of high consumption in search of “love”. Practicing anti-consumerism will leave countless hours for parents to instill the correct morals and show true love to children. Empty searching for love in all the wrong products and technologies will be eliminated. National Downshifting Week encourages participants to 'Slow Down and Green Up' and contains a list of suggestions for individuals, companies, children and schools to help adopt green or eco-friendly policies and habits, develop corporate social and environmental responsibility in the workplace, and create eco-protocols and lessons that work alongside the national curriculum, respectively. The net result of the slow down benefits the general health and well being of the individual, reduces their stress, can improve their personal and sexual relationships too and also benefit their local and global environments. Another practice is the adoption of a simplified diet. Diets that may simplify domestic food production and consumption include raw veganism and the Gandhi diet. Diets can be impacted healthfully if the increase in money will allow purchasing of more fruits and vegetables and healthy dinning options. Diets can be impacted negatively if the increase in income leads to increased delivery orders or fast food restaurants due to less time to cook healthy and delicious meals at home. By practicing anti-consumerism and simplifying diets, chances of becoming overweight and acquiring chronic illness will be reduced. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, “It is health that is real wealth and not pieces of gold and silver.” Another practice is increasing spirituality and tuning up mind, body, and soul. Without the stresses of attaining satisfaction with material things, an increase in spiritual being can give a brighter outlook on life and the world. Church gatherings, inspirational music and exercises such as Yoga are simple ways to practice spirituality. Consumerism increased greatly due to politics and economists. “The ‘democratization of consumption’ became the unspoken goal of American economic policy”( Durning 29-30). Companies knew that once the natural need of food and clothes were met, there would be mass amounts of products left unsold. That would create a serious problem in the economy so over buying and mass consumption was then elevated to the status of being patriotic. If there is love for your country, the smallest devotion one can make is by purchasing more goods. Practicing anti-consumerism will go against the persuasion of economist and decrease the effect politics have on personal income. Since our economy is based on a consumer life-style, low consumption levels would disrupt the structure of that life-style. Many job changes, dislocations of people and community, and transformation of corporations would occur because practicing buying low levels of goods will eliminate the productively needed. In defense of low consumption, continuing high consumption levels will “pillage and poison the earth guarantee not only the same misfortunes but worse” (Durning 107). Regardless of the argument against practicing anti-consumerism, the environment and inhabitants will suffer more if the rage of consuming continues. Pollution to the economy will decrease the amount of raw goods available to be manufactured, due to damage of natural resources. Shifting to a low-consumption economy will make that economy one of permanence. Many consumers have not realized the impact that high consumption has on the environment. Practicing anti-consumerism is environmentally viable. Over the years, more technologically advanced equipment has shown appearance in our homes. “air conditioning—which relies on ozone-depleting coolants—was standard in homes , using 13% of U.S. electricity.” ( Durning 32). Not only is consuming all these goods harmful to wallets, they also damage the environment. Forest will die from pollution, acid rain, and shifts in climate. Practicing anti-consumerism is a process of change. Just like changing eating, exercising, or sleeping habits, those are a result in becoming aware of effects on both physical and emotional well-being. (Kesser 101). Since materialism has been involved with shaping our value system, it is something that has been used to measure self-worth and competence. Therefore never granting complete satisfaction for fear that more is still able to be obtained. A moral lesson of anti-consumerism is contemplating motives of buying habits. Is the true reason money is spent because higher fame or status is wanted? Is a search for self-esteem a goal? Building stronger relationships with people or activities will be able to fill those voids.
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giving. Visiting neighbors with brownies; spreading a little holiday cheer at churches, nursing homes and schools, are some of the ways to give quality time to others during the holiday. Others may spend the extra free time to improve their quality of life, for example pursuing creative activities such as art and crafts (see starving artist), learning how to play an instrument, or home improvement.The philosophy behind these choices is examined at length in Ernest Callenbach's 1972 non-fiction book Living Poor with Style, which also devotes hundreds of pages to practical tips and how-to guides for both voluntary and involuntary practitioners of simple living. Callenbach stated his main purpose for writing the book was to help others realize “money is not everything. It's more important to live in a way that makes sense to you and figure out how to do it with less money.”(Brodsky). More money does not solve problems so making the best out of the resources available is a major aspect of this book. As quoted by the great Henry David Thoreau, “A man is rich in proportion to the things he can afford to let alone.” (Durning 150). By accepting to live sufficiently rather than excessively, home is found in the basic human nature. Once those needs are met, societal influences deem more food, clothes, and shelter is what is needed.
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strict sense, entail consumption. Who would claim you can be a slum lord, raking in money from college-aged tenants while refusing to fix the plumbing and also practice simple living? Can your money come from, say, Monsanto's ability to genetically modify corn, eat Non-GMO in your private life, and still claim to be an adherent? And in any case, there is a difference between refusing to hold down a job and practicing simple living. Please weigh in if you care, or I'll go ahead and delete this sentence, since it's really just a loophole for misunderstanding and criticism.
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goals. To suggest that such motives are invalid and preclude their inclusion under the broad umbrella of the VS movement because they don't "fit in" with certain ideas of what the movement "should" be about is to deny the possibility that the effects of those choices are at least as beneficial to humanity or the environment as those of more "conscious" motives and choices. Simple living is as much about the personal as about the universal.
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which thrives on profit generated by 'distributing' mass-produced stuff (error rates apply) for broad consumption - or at least, broad posession, as 'want' is 'manufactured' through advertising and marketing broadly across target populations of 'likely' purchases of products and services, many of which are not used, or not used very much (without much sense of sharing, as is done inside institutions or other 'communities').
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etc. And advertising is a key way to shape that demand. I do not have time to work on these things, and I do not think there is an "official plan" in the advertising industry to curtail simple living, but I think what they do is inherently an attempt to create product differentiation through complexity, e.g. new multi-featured athletic shoes, etc. So I think a section on the media will be interesting.
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I just did a fairly serious re-working of the intro. I changed the first sentence into something like a definition of simple living. I also eliminated a couple things. The rejection of wester culture is gone because I see it as very similar to the rejection of consumerism, the only part of western
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I'm having some trouble coming to terms with the sentence "One could, for example, practice intense capitalism yet still live simply, because capital can be generated via investments (property, stocks and bonds, for example) that do not, in a strict sense, entail consumption." These things, do, in a
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A pretty good article in my view, but seems to miss the advertising angle. It is intuitive that simple living would put a serious dent in the profit charts the CEOs of many companies need to present to the boards each year and to do that there is need to "create demand" for more complex cell phones,
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Some people practice voluntary simplicity to reduce need for purchased goods or services and, by extension, reduce their need to sell their time for money. Some will spend the extra free time helping family or volunteering with others. During the holiday season, such people often perform alternative
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Moving from cars to telecommuting, or moving from air travel to e-communication is such an incredible saving in global resources (and an increase in simplicity of living) that wondering if this helps any 'bad forces' behind new technologies is pointless. Telecommuting, Skype or e-mail are far better
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The article as it stands lacks a thorough enumeration of people's motives for choosing to live simply - some of them seemingly in opposition with those mentioned. Motives for living simply voluntarily vary with each adherent and, contrary to some opinions here, can and do include personal financial
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Another approach is to focus more fundamentally on the underlying motivation of buying and consuming so many resources for a good quality of life. Though our society often seeks to buy happiness, materialism very frequently fails to satisfy, and may even increase the level of stress in life. With
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I understand this may be controversial, but I just deleted a short part of this talk page in which one editor slandered a major world religion and an adherent felt compelled to defend his/her faith by calling the editor ignorant. It's deletable both because you can't be blatantly offesive on talk
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magazine of the same name that is full of glossy photos of japonesque minimalist interiors, printed on expensive landfill-clogging coated paper and full of ads for $ 50 chopsticks and rice bowls to give the reader that delicious sense of forgoing materialism while wallowing in it at the same time.
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I'm not challenging conservation, reduction of waste, or frugality, or even the idea of simplifying one's life (which is ultimately a personal spiritual choice and beyond criticism). I'm essentially in agreement with the concept but see a trend towards shallowness in its implementation. There's a
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However, the surfeit of disposed gadgets that break down and stop working (thus, they are thrown away - not merely at a cost for disposal, but at a cost to the earth) is not to be taken lightly. And massive amounts of packaging - and the ecological cost of producing 'stuff' for an economic system
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Self-sufficiency and paucity of possessions are mutually incompatible. It takes a heap o' stuff to be self sufficient, since you are replacing remotely supplied services requiring offsite resources with local, personally owned gear/machinery/tools ("off-the-grid" electrical power generation, for
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06:31, 20 August 2009 (UTC) 16:06, 24 June 2009 RepublicanJacobite (19,236 bytes) (→Notes and references: ---Edit further reading list; removed commentary; alphabetize by author's name; remove titles used as refs.) 15:32, 24 June 2009 RepublicanJacobite (23,132 bytes) (Moved and edited see also
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I would argue that simple living in recent years has grown into a new social movement. This article describes simple living as a lifestyle choice, which it is, but I think there should be some information of current efforts, campaigns, nonprofits, NGOs, etc., especially on National Downshifting
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I would like to add my efforts in living simply. Previously I had tried to incorporate that link but one user Themfromspace continued vandalism and removed it quite number of times. This user is a young student and may be not have enough maturity to understand what I am trying to share with the
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I don't deny that Jesus may have lived a simple life, but any reader of the Gospels should recognize that Jesus is advising his missionaries to trust that the Lord will provide for their needs, as he does repeatedly, rather than that they should burden themselves with unneeded and troublesome
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I work on adding more to what consists of simple living. I believe something that was left out is what the mindset makes up of a minimalists. This includes common practices they follow when going about their daily lives involving the outside world and it's materials, what they value, and the
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example) . "Simple Living" as practiced or preached seems to actually refer to merely getting rid of all your stuff and sitting in an empty house doing nothing with nothing while feeling virtuous about it. Man is the animal who uses tools, be proud of your big brain and opposable thumbs.
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culture most of us really want to reject (after all, this article cites a whole bunch of prominent members of western culture from Jesus to Thoreau). I also got rid of a phrase about fairness, which seems very like social justice. Anyway... just so y'all know what I was shooting for.
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article: "After resigning his position at Berkeley, he held no permanent employment. He lived a simple life in a remote shack on very little money, occasionally worked odd jobs, and received some financial support from his family." I believe he should be mentioned in the article.
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The first sentence of this article says that Simple living is "similar but not identical to voluntary simplicity" but does not enumerate the differences; the rest of the article seems to use the terms interchangably and "Voluntary simplicity" redirects here. This is inconsistent.
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References Brodsky, Bart. “Ernest Callenbach Interview”. OPEN EXCHANGE. Vol. 21. Archives. May 1994 Durning, Alan. How much is enough? New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1992 Kasser, Tim. The High Price of Materialism. Massachusetts: The MIT Press, 2002
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There are several good photos in this article at this point. If there is still interest in adding more, some suggestions would be helpful. First thing that comes to mind is model with simple homemade sack lunch. Need descriptive suggestions, please. Thanks,
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Over 4K of text was removed without any form of discussion. The external references help fill the depth of the topic. The logic why some were kept and most were deleted is not clear to me. I would prefer to undo these edits. Further discussions are invited.
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The "Practice" section needs POV and how-to clean up. "Though our society often seeks to buy happiness, materialism very frequently fails to satisfy" "We grow them in wide mouthed mason jars with a square of nylon window screen screwed under a metal ring"
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Reviewing the edits, it appears that RJ was removing external links that do not meet the guidelines, as well as trimming links and notes that were already present as references. (We don't "double-link".) As such, reverting does not appear to be necessary.
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I think that a section on 'operational criticism of concept' is far better and less polemic than a section on 'flawed concept' (as suggested above). Where's the evidence that many humans cannot do better with less (andless superfluous
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Must we cite the Unabomber as an example of someone who theorizes about simple living and technology (second para. under "Technology" section)? Isn't that carrying our alienation from the "mainstream" just a BIT too far?
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In the Politics and activism section, in the Environmentalism sub-section, the first sentence contains the hyperlink "four pillars". However, the target page, Four Pillars of the Green Party, does not exist.
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I'm wanting to challenge a wholesale simplification that "less is better", and specifically the section about self reliance. There's nothing simple about self reliance except for the illusion of it.
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this whole section is inappropriate for a Knowledge "talk" section. "talk" is not the place for an attempted (and in this case utterly uninformed) refutation of the subject of the main article.
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I cannot, however, think of a way to incorporate this into an encyclopedia article that is essentially just a definition, even though it defines an illogical construct. Any suggestions welcomed.
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A couple of months ago, someone added an "Anti-consumerism box" to the article without explanation as to why. Looking at the links it contains, many seem to be only tenuously linked to
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about the removal of his link! If the link continues to be added the next step will be to semiprotect the article to disallow all IP contributions. The case is also being discussed at
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Kaczynski has little to do with simple living IMO. Living simply is not the same as voluntary simplicity. I agree with Nirvana's comment that he did not practice simple living
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Again it shows your immaturity. What I have written in my article is what I practise and not a concept. Please grow up. I will have to report your vandalism to editors.
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Well, the concept of economic disparities and the growing body of data gathered around that concept (whether or not it really reflects what it purports to measure), etc.
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The page this page discusses is markes as "without sources", but I see a lot of sources there. Can anybody explain why the page is so marked? The tag should be removed!
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himself or was he just anti-technology? There is more to simple living than just technology. If he did not practice simple living he would be better suited on the
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Should groups like "The Compact" be included on this page? They are generating a lot of positive media attention & interest in downshifting/SL lifestyle. --
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Week's public awareness efforts and growing momentum. The politics section seems to contradict itself by defining simple living as apolitical. Any thoughts?
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challenging impulses that they are faced with. Overall, this shows that a mindset is important when trying to achieve minimalism and its fullest potential.
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have added a link to nariphaltan.org to the article, without getting agreement on the Talk page that the link is appropriate. The 218 IP has also had the
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Ah, much better. I was thinking about the distinction between SL and poverty. It seems to me that SL is often very similar to voluntary poverty
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My heading "flawed concept" is for the talk page only; I agree with your "operational criticism of concept" for the actual article.
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There is no criticism on this idea? No words on the 'miserabilism' of it, or the anti-scientific anti-technic feels thing?
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I agree it is not needed. Anyone feel like creating a simple living box? There is certainly enough content (see
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What more need be explained ? Determine your life's purpose and take the appropriate action to achieve it.
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I'd dispute the neutrality of this section. Whether or not the action was 'justified' is irrelevant.
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So being frugal is a "feminine" thing? How stupid is that? Gender baiting, plain and simple.
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Thanks! You know, this is the first time somebody said they actually liked a change I made.
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Apolitical? Maybe but what about the social movement/campaign side?
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Index

Talk:Simple living
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
Archive 2
Theodore Kaczynski
SqueakBox
22:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Theodore Kaczynski
simple living
technology
non-aggression principle
Terrorism
simplicity
nirvana2013
17:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Theodore Kaczynski
Heritage Farmer
23:13, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
Sunray
06:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Enforced simplicity
Theodore Kaczynski
Voluntary simplicity
nirvana2013
15:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Kirkpatrick Sale
nirvana2013
22:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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