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was a SNES/super Famicom release initially, bulk of article is about the making of a SNES game, not a psp one) vs. (someone may be confused in not seeing the initial packing that was used in English territories). The latter part is possible, but neither version is commercially available outside after market material currently. This is why I've leaned on the former. Others have seemed to lean towards this to outside your one sentence rebuttal and weeks of silence on the topic until now. I'm not sure what's weird about what I did after you suggested me for me remove an image. What did you expect?
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English-language cover or, in the case of an arcade game, a promotional flier. Secondarily, use a logo or foreign-language cover. When cover designs differ between regions, use the cover from the region associated with the game's first English language release." In this case, perhaps to follow this standard, we should use the English-language box art for this game in the infobox over the SNES one. Thoughts?
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released in 7 days. Upon that time more information should become known, including but not limited too overall development information, US release, Japanese reception, and first week sales. Overall, I recommend a STRONG DO NOT MERGE. If in 1 months time, The first departure has not been expanded upon they should be combined (like the Tales of Eternia PSP port).
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don't know how different it is. (game upgrade? more areas? There is very little information in the article about this PSP bit as well, just that "wanted the remakes to feel as though they're completely new games", so is that really a good representative image? I know we have standards set, but this seems to be a unique situation.
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isn't a remake like this game but a port/remaster only adding some new things and features whereas First Departure is a straight up new game built from the ground up. Let me know if you are okay with making it its own page. If the consensus is that it shouldn't get a separate page, then please go ahead and redirect the link.
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something weird about it. But these are both relatively older titles and by reading the basic opening paragraph (or even a well decided heading under the image in the infobox), nobody will be so confused that they think they are on the wrong article page, which I think would be the only real serious issue here.
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I'm not sure what you are implying, but if others want to come back to discuss it later or if there is any users confused at what happened with the change of image in the article, we can probably bring more discussion by changing it and seeing if anyone is truly confused at what the image represents.
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Yeah, I don't really see any win-win here as I think i'd be disappointed for one small reason or another using PSP over SNES (namely, it still says Star Ocean, is recognizable, shows to the audience this was originally a SNES game) while the other does follow the rules of it being an English-language
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to justify its own article, plus this was a version released in English when the original was exclusive to Japan, so there should've be any real issues splitting reception into two sections. For me, it's not about how many references it has, but how notable it is in isolation. The 2020 Trials of Mana
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I'm aware that SIF is an essay; editors need not be reminded every single time they are even obliquely referenced (nor was it even the main thrust of my opposition, I merely mentioned it because it encapsulates my point well). The readable prose of the article is currently at 24kb, which is far below
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I guess I'm confused by the combination of stances here: You're motivated enough to hold a discussion, but unbothered that no consensus was found. You're motivated enough to make the change, but unbothered that anyone could rightfully undo it at any point because there's no real consensus supporting
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I mean, it's also pretty weird for anyone unfamiliar with how Japanese Super Nintendo box art is for people familiar with Super Nintendo games as it doesn't look like any common Super Nintendo box art that English-speaking audiences would be familiar with. I feel like either way there is going to be
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I mean..Last few folks have seemed like their is no issue in recognizing the game from the Japanese cover. Your response was very specific other than it could apply to the PSP one. I mean sure, but we can't have both and it's not a measure of counts, but I think we should really just choose one for
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Like, I'm really just picking one because the general vibe i'm getting Serge is that we need one, we can't have both, and I don't think anyone would be any more confused by the SNES one over PSP one for the reasons stated above. The only thing I see the PSP thing going is that it makes it look like
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Although it would be according to the rules (which are unique since Film, Album and Novel projects prefer original covers), it would be pretty weird to use the PSP one since it's from a different era: it's a remaster/remake released 12 years later, has a different title, and the character art style
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I mean, undoing it would be foolish. Article clearly states that there is a the re-release of the game. My initial issue was that it doesn't validate its claim of fair use. I've leaned mildly into preferring the original box art for various reasons, (clearly says the title in English, showcases it
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Two types of special techniques exist: long range ones that can only be executed at a distance from the target, and short range ones, which must be used at melee range. Experience points are accumulated upon successfully completing a battle, which contributes to leveling up the characters, so they
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The remake is different enough that it should absolutely have its own page. The split was clumsily done since there is some repeating info on both pages and there really should be none. Also, post split the original game will undoubtedly no longer be a Good Article. While I think it must be done,
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all have their own page rather than just being a section of the original game. Considering that the remake is significantly different from the original and is the version that has been re-released, I think that it should have its own page for being significant enough. Star Ocean: Second Evolution
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You're probably right. My Japanese is nonexistent , so...yeah, you have the one-up on me there. Also, some research I've done recently has brought to my attention that "Fantastic Space Odyssey" is more than likely an unofficial subtitle added by someone, somewhere after the release of "The Second
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I have doubts that the English PSP cover is particularly recognizable, given sales figures, meaning both covers are basically equally unrecognizable to the readership. And since the SFC cover includes the name of the game in English in huge letters, I don't think there's any compelling reason to
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I agree that it follows our rules more, but now if I looked at this, I'd assume it was a PSP game originally, not a Super Famicom one. I know the prose would suggest otherwise, and I am probably projecting for viewers. I'm not entirely familiar with this game or it's remake/master/whatever, so I
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is part of Knowledge (XXG)'s policy: "Other than verifiability and the other points presented on this page, there is no practical limit to the number of topics Knowledge (XXG) can cover, or the total amount of content." As long as this game is notable and is different enough to the main game (it
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Star Ocean : the First departure is an enhanced remake of Star Ocean (snes). As it is unreleased in Japan, not much information is known about the title (unlike Final Fantasy IV DS). Normally, it would make sense to combine the two articles EXCEPT for the fact that The First Departure is being
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As it seems that no one is up to the task, for now I put a spoiler warning in there, now we have two. Do what you have to do with them, but if you remove the new one I created, do it before you edited the descriptions to get rid of the spoilers. But please do not simply remove the warnings. I'll
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surrounded by anime characters that probably only connect with people if they've already played the game. Most of the article involves the making-of the original game and little about the re-release version, so if there is no major arguments otherwise, I'll remove the PSP box art in a few days.
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Reception for a 25 year old game will not magically appear after a split. That is a sourcing issue, not a presentation issue, and it exists regardless and independent of the split. And OF COURSE the reception of the remake has "something to do" with the reception of the original title. They're
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The fact is that incorporating the remake into the article of the original results in a poor presentation for the original game. The original's reception is hardly mentioned; nobody did any digging on older publications to find it because it was easier to talk about the remake. So I think that
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I kind of agree with Axem. Nobody would think they are on the wrong article reading "Star Ocean" in big letters on the box art of the Japanese box and honestly, no offence to this game, but as I'm coming in relatively blind to this, this is one of many Japanese Role-playing games with a cover
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spin out article, and my stance is the same - there's all sorts of unsourced or poorly sourced content, and poorly written prose. It reinforces my stance that my objection is more about the shoddy quality of the spin out article. (The other part being how poorly this article was chopped up.)
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obviously in conversation with the other so differences in overall reception are worth noting and worth highlighting by their juxtaposition (e.g. "the remake fixed all the problems of the original and it was better received" or "the remake was insufficient and did worse than the original").
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Per the copyright image-claim on the image, there is currently nothing that states why it's being used in the article. It's being used for identification, but we already have the original SNES image. Now, I know the per the infobox template, it states the following. "The ideal image is an
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An additional thought - looks like the Switch and PS4 versions have separate cover art/game icon art, and were released in English. Considering both the Switch and PS4 separately are far more popular than the PSP ever was in English regions, maybe that version trumps either of these?
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OK, then let's settle this down: if the SFC is going to be used, then the PSP cover art must be removed from the article. If the PSP cover art is going to be used, then the SFC must be removed instead. It's all up to you guys. IMO, i prefer the SFC cover art but opinions may vary :)
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Maybe not, but my bigger issues wasn't so much having one over the other. It was we shouldn't have two articles of game covers in the article. It just ballooned into this conversation which we found neither satisfied one over the others. I'm not sure what else there is to discuss.
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violations, I've played both versions of the games. They are extremely similar. That aside, I'm a bit concerned about all these relatively inactive accounts coming out of the woodwork to come and make the same OSE-violating argument. I'm starting to wonder if we've got an off-wiki
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The descriptions of the main characters contain spoilers and speculation. It even describes Ronixis destiny in Star Ocean: The Second Story! This should be either edited, removing the speculations on the characters outcome and their future, or a spoiler warning should be present.
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I believe that the little blurb of Japanese text beneath the title translates roughly to that, but I'm not exactly sure. That's just what I've heard, and I unfortunately cannot recall where. Please tell me if I messed up this response in any way, I'm still rather new to this.
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My stance hasn't changed from where I started in all this, and if you ask me, I don't really see a consensus for change here. If you make a change, I won't revert you...but I don't particularly believe this discussion is much to point to for future article maintenance either.
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ZXCVBNM summed it up best by stating that the majority of the information on the page deals with the remake and not the original game. If other pages for original games and their remakes have separate pages, then so should this game. There's no logical reason to do otherwise.
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I'm just saying you'd be hard pressed for anyone maintaining the article in the future to enforce what you're proposing based off of this discussion. No one is going to revert with a "per talk page consensus" alluding to this discussion. Because there isn't any.
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I agree that if other remakes get to have their own separate page, then so too should the Star Ocean remake. Since it isn't a remaster of the original game, it should be moved. I think this is especially true considering how different it is from the original.
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The ROM of the original Super Famicon release was partially translated into English and made available for play via emulators by the online fan translation group, DeJap, long before the remake was ported to the PSP. Should the article reference this fact?
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Gotcha on the differences between them. It's maybe twisting the rules around, but it says "When cover designs differ between regions, use the cover from the region associated with the game's first English language release", so that would be the PSP one.
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Moving information from this page to the First Departure page won't ruin the quality of this page since there is enough information about the original SNES version to keep this page up. There is also enough sources to go ahead with the split too.
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This article is covering all versions of the game though, not just the original. I just can't believe that a Japan-only cover from the 90s is the best choice for the English Knowledge (XXG) in 2024 as far as image recognizability goes...
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Yes, I was thinking that, for English reader recognizability, the PSP cover would probably be better for the infobox. I'd rather make that switch, and then wait and see if/when someone can craft an NFCC rationale for the SNES cover.
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No problem. I may have found it just because I was specifically searching at that website. Both RPGFan and RPGamer are good about going into gameplay mechanics in a more detailed manner than other review websites I've noticed.
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Some music from Star Ocean: The Second Story, such as that of the bonus dungeon and riding a bunny on the world map, are played during similar scenes in the remake. It also features a theme song: "Heart" by the Japanese group
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I'm gonna chime in and say that having the original Super Famicom cover art doesn't hurt the article at all. After all, the name in the cover is in English and it's the original release of the first Star Ocean.
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is a completely different game from the original. It shouldn't be part of the original game's page considering how it's technically a brand, new game with a ton of new additions and different gameplay. If
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Star Ocean doesn't quite pass the Ico test because the boxart for First Departure is roughly creatively equivalent to the original. Therefore the PSP artwork seems to be the one that should be used.
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That works for me. I suppose just noting underneath it that this is the PSP art in the caption and the opening lead will clarify enough what is going to the average reader assuming they can read. :)
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Ok, did lots of cutting, clarifying, found some new references that will back up the article, cut unverifiable stuff and added som neat development tech info. Let me know if there is anything else!
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Most of the game occurs in towns and dungeons, and unlike many RPGs, the game lacks a world map that connects various locations, instead having the character follow paths from one place to the next.
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Yeah I find it strange too. Every person in support of the split, except for ZX, has been inactive for months or years (and promptly returned to inactivity after parachuting their !vote in here).
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The English localization was handled by Nanica, Inc., with voice-over production services provided by Epcar Entertainment, Inc. Recordings were made at the Oracle Post studios in Burbank, CA.
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She is characterized as a somewhat ditzy girl who is primarily interested in meeting guys, and is voiced by Melissa Fahn in the English version, and Tomoe Hanba in the Japanese version.
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The battles play out similarly to those in Tales of Phantasia, but instead of switching to a side scrolling side view as in that game, in Star Ocean, the top-down viewpoint is retained.
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Personally, I'm fine with the current arrangement. However I am not super familiar with the ins and outs of NFCC and whether there's a violation. I believe it's probably safe. --
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that the game was first released on PSP, which isn't the case and the article mostly discusses the development of a super nintendo game with very little about the PSP version.
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get their own when the only major difference between this and the original are new graphics. The gameplay from the original has not changed at all. Even the remasters of
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the Infobix. At this point I don't really think either offers any great benefit over the other Reith maybe mild preference for the original cover. So what do you think?
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It's not that I actively want it gone, it's just that, if our image policy can't rationalize 2 covers, I don't think a JP-only cover should be the only one used.
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Yet, the unofficial title "Fantasic Space Odyssey" remains... I'm going to go ahead and lose that until someone can offer legitimate proof for its implementation.
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approved according to the checklist. I don't have the time at the moment to do it justice for a GAN article, so I'll just leave it here for someone else to add.
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The way I see it the policy is "favor the first English release unless the cover for that is significantly creatively inferior in some way". An example is the
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Again, I'm not against splitting, but this whole "other remakes get articles there's so should this one" is a complete logical fallacy. It directly violates
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It's not even that I'm opposed to a split, it just felt like a pretty heavy-handed deconstruction of this article, which has had a lot of work put into it.
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the change. It's...a weird combination of stances for an experienced editor to take. I guess I'm just not sure what the point was, besides me relenting...
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It probably comes from Track 1, Disk 2 of the Perfect Sound Collection; it's the first thing said. Whether or not it's on the box or spoken in gameplay...?
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contrary to your argument, the best presentation is when both pages are split because reception for the remake has nothing to do with the original title.
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I have never seen this addition "Fantastic Space Odyssey" made to the cartridge, box, or instruction manual. Could you tell me where to find it?
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Both Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia are stored on a 48 Mbit cartridge not on a 64 Mbit one therefore I have changed the value in the article
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There may be no real straight consensus, but nobody seems to want to discuss either so might as well change it and see what happens.
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From the About Page, it appears to have been a reference used by known reliable sources such as the one featured in this article.
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debut which is where most English-language readers would have played it (I assume). Hard to gauge, but I'd say we just have one.
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advice, I decided to make a discussion about this. I accidentally went ahead and made a separate page for the Star Ocean remake,
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Now that the FFD nom is over, what shall I do with the PSP cover? Shall I leave the image alone or re-remove it? What about you,
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Did you check out the first attempt at a split? It destroyed this article. And I've had to weed out a ton of garbage from the
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https://blog.playstation.com/2019/09/10/star-ocean-character-illustrator-talks-process-design-and-updating-for-the-modern-eye/
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Yeah, if it were up to me i'd just have earliest cover of any game up here, but I'd also like to stick to policy generally.
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cover art in which the Japanese art is used. Both their Western boxarts are considered aesthetically bankrupt in every way.
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Workig on this stuff; quick fixes done, cutting through the rest. Let you know when it's done, thanks for the review!
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katakana (スターオーシャン) as best as I can make it out. This is just a phoneticization (if I may make up a word) of "Star
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Thanks for the review! Who would have thought the article would grow so much just filling in citations? :)
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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is a source that can cover most of the content I reverted back into the article about Private actions.
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My Japanese is pretty limited, but I'm pretty sure that the text beneath the English language logo is
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https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/12/03/star-ocean-first-departure-r-katsumi-enami-interview/
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article. It was clearly carried out by someone with little experience with editing Knowledge (XXG).
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This user has been banned for abusing multiple accounts in this discussion, confirmed by CheckUser.
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Several references have unlinked publishers (IGN, GameSpot, GameSpy). This is an optional change.
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I don't really see how that argument isn't equally strong when applied to the PSP cover though.
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does not warrant a standalone article, as it can easily be integrated into the primary article.
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has to be tempered by an understanding of what's best for the reader (and obey guidelines at
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My stance was also the current arrangement as well, so I too would like to stick with that.
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Right. I've gone through this article, and I've found several points that need addressing.
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remakes are notable because of the number of changes, but the recent expanded remaster of
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Knowledge (XXG):Files for discussion/2016 May 17#Front covers of Star Ocean (video game)
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the way it was split before, open to it being done in an alternate, more nuanced way.
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Story". Unfortunately, I'm having no luck finding out where exactly it came from. --
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https://twinfinite.net/2019/11/star-ocean-first-departure-r-interview-katsumi-enami/
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I've played both. They're more or less the same game, its just that the SNES one
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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obviously is for both), I see no issues having this with a standalone article.
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Pretty comprehensive source done recently by veteran journalist Kurt Kalata.
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I think we should take out the moby games link, for it has been taken down.
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I know nothing about the game or the series, but the Japanese on the box
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it's best to show some politeness by notifying the people in question.
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Fixed. The guys at Moby Games renamed the entry. Thanks for the tip --
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If we can't decide on our own, we can always ask for more input from
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Where are you people coming from? Did someone ask you to post here?
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isn't noteworthy of getting it's own page then why do remakes like
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That's what I saw on a first pass. Putting this on hold for now. --
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Errr what exactly is your read on a "consensus" here...?
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