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Rubinstein preferred the Hamburg-built Steinway model D-274. Sergei Rachmaninoff owned two New York models in his Beverly Hills home and one New York model D-274 in his New York home; however, he chose a Hamburg model D-274 for his Villa Senar in Switzerland. " don't appear to be verifiable through ref 116. Ref 116 seems to state (several times) only that Rachmaninoff had a Steinway at Villa Senar near Lucerne.
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be) the world's largest ...."; or even better that "the system at the time of its installation was claimed (or stated to be) the world's largest ...". The statement as it currently stands is not supported by a Reliable Source and there is no evidence that four years later it is still the worlds largest system. Note: Ref 91, makes it clear the Steinway & Sons claim to have ..... .
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As far as I, can tell the claims: "Some great pianists of the past and some active pianists today have expressed a preference for Steinway pianos produced at Steinway's factory in New York City or at Steinway's factory in Hamburg. Vladimir Horowitz played a New York-built Steinway model D-274; Arthur
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The statement: "On January 24, 2009, Steinway installed the world's largest solar-powered rooftop air-conditioning and dehumidification system, at a cost of $ 875,000, to dehumidify the factory in New York City, and protect the pianos." aught to make it clear that "the system is claimed (or stated to
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Ref 96 is a raw web link with the title "Yoko Ono's official YouTube page", perhaps it is but opens "John Lennon: Imagine Peace". I've not seen any statement that it is "Yoko Ono's official YouTube page". The site is being used to verify "The piano can be seen in the 1971 film footage that features
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Possibly just about compliant in respect of introducing the topic (one half of its role), but its rather "thin" for an article of this length. In particular if says nothing about the "piano bank", affiliates, the sale of the company by the family. I would consider these to be "important", based on
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I've now had a quick read of this article and my initial impression is that this article is GA-class, possibly somewhere between GA and FA, but I've not yet done the review or checked any of the citations.
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The statement in the first sentence: "and subcontracted pianos from suppliers sold under secondary names" is vague and unclear. This information is then repeated, and expanded upon in the final paragraph.
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the relative proportion of text devoted to these topics, in the body of the article, so I have concerns as to whether the Lead accurately summarise the main points of the article, as per
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Update: In the light of numerous raw web links used a citations, I'm revising this down to somewhere between C-class and B-class.
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In paragraph five, a citation aught to be provided for the claim": "By the year 2000, Steinway had made its 550,000th piano".
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Refs 52, 53, 54, 55, which are web links have titles but not publishers (OK its Steinway & Sons, but it should be given).
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Refs 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173 and 174 are raw web links, they should be properly cited.
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Mostly well referenced, but some sections are unreferenced and some references need attention.
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Mostly well referenced, but some sections are unreferenced and some references need attention.
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Refs 123, 128, 129, 130, 131, 141 and 142 are raw web links, they should be properly cited.
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John Lennon performing Imagine", so "John Lennon: Imagine Peace" is a more relevant title.
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Ref 44 (Forgotten New York) has a broken link it leads to a "Page Not found" message.
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once the problems above are addressed. The article itself is close to being a "GA".
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I'm now going to work my way through the article section by section, starting at
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Refs 92, 93, 94 & 95 are raw web links. They should be properly cited.
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Refs 98, 99 & 100 are raw web links they should be properly cited.
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see here) and two main contributors are both banned as sock puppets (
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Refs 209 and 210 are raw web links, they should be properly cited.
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section and working to the end, and then going back to review the
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B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with
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A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have
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The nominator has been inactive since since 31 May 2012 (
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See Ref 113 - that is exactly how it should be done.
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See Ref 113 - that is exactly how it should be done.
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