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detector, there's a 25% unlikely violation and checked the article's history and I don't any edit wars or disruption. Also as I read the article, I assume there is a grammar that needs to be fixed like some words don't need commas, most words need commas and there is a sentence maybe consider wordies. So I under most of the text of the article so far.--
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Remember with the copyvio tool that you shouldn't just look at the number - it gives you a comparison for each source of the article text (left) vs the source text, highlighting anything that appears word-for-word in both. Sometimes big numbers just means a short source with a long quote, but that's
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So you're saying it meets every other part of the criteria? Could you elaborate for me, for the benefit of having a complete review. It reads well? No issues with grammar? All the sources have been checked? There's no gaps in coverage? No places where it details something irrelevant? No issues with
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Can you understand all of the text? Does it read well - i.e. sentences flow from one to another without jumping to bits of information, it is easy to read, it is interesting to read? Does it use wikilinks where appropriate? If it has jargon, is this explained? Is the article well structured? Is the
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Again, having read it, does the tone in any place sound promotional, negative, or any other subjective manner? If yes, it may not entirely be neutral. Are all controversial statements cited with sources that mention the views, and there's no writing to make simple statements sound good or bad? Are
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Does it have images? If yes, where are they from? Is what the image shows mentioned in text? Is it in the right place? Does it look good? Does it have a caption? Does the article have other illustration, like infoboxes and tables (any other media that's not text)? If it has wikipedia templates and
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Sorry, I was busy with other articles but I looked at all the images and these images are self-published work and my strong opinion is the images are kind of look good on each title of this article. No Wiki tables but there is one only image gallery. Second, while using the earwig copyvio tool
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Article relatively image-heavy. The subways, the churches, the play center, the landmarks, 8th Av. OR Chinatown, Alku Toinen, Brooklyn Army Terminal, Sunset Park, 5th Av., are good. But I feel the schools, 653 52nd Street, one of the Chinese demo images, and the factory are unnecessary.
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So what do you think of the lead? Is it a good length when reading the whole article? Does it accurately reflect the content of the article? Are there any mistakes? Is it written neutrally? Is there anything confusing? Are wikilinks used, and are they appropriate?
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Your lack of specifics isn't filling me with confidence, and won't give the nominator any idea of the article's strengths and weaknesses. It also sounds very arbitrary to say 'I read it and there are no issues'. We could approach the writing section-by-section?
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fine. Other times, a small number can actually be a long source with heavy borrowings of shorter sentences. Look over the comparisons. I just did a check, and in this case, what flags the most is names of organizations, which can't be changed.
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Is there any copyright infringement of text or images? (earwig copyvio tool for text is in the GA toolbox to the right; you can reverse search any commons images that seem suspicious. If a non-free/fair-use image is used, check its
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This is probably the most suitable section for this info, other than a geography section, which doesn't exist in this article (and would not be a good fit anyway). Also, this is consistent with other articles on NYC neighborhoods.
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tables, are they formatted and used correctly? If it has other media, is it licensed correctly? Do they work well in the places where they are? - If you think the answer to any of these is 'no', it should be noted under 'Media'.
763:, Sorry guys I was been busy other stuff but Kingsif I trying to understand and answering your question but there's no confusion when I read the article and the lead length of the article, 2-5 paragrphs on each sections. -- 1055:
n 1888, landowners delivered "a petition for local improvements" to be effected upon some 7,500 lots located from Third to Ninth Avenues between 39th and 65th Streets, which were estimated to be worth about $ 1
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Seems to be some contradiction where it says (if hyperbolic) that industry was destroyed post-WWII, but there were still "a large number of industrial jobs" for Puerto Ricans in the 60s? Clarity needed on this
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Check the article history and the talk page - are there any recent edit wars or disruption, or any ongoing discussions about content? If yes, the article may not be stable and could change significantly
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The current version is fine - your suggestion only removes one word, and would have both two numbers next to each other and a number following punctuation. Are there any other parts of concern?
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Being able to understand it is good, but that's not the only criteria. So the lead is a good length, okay. Does it accurately reflect the content of the article and cover all major points?
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It wasn't necessarily wholly destroyed at once, but the decline happened over some time. This process was just hastened with the closing of the Brooklyn Army Terminal in 1966.
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Reading the article, does it go off topic? If yes, it may not be focused. Does it contain everything you expect it to, and not leave you wanting for relevant information?
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tone? All statements and implications attributed? Everything that needs to be cited is? And can you give some examples from the article of each criteria being met?
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Police and crime seems succinct, but also establishes that it has generally lower crime than NYC, so if there's nothing notable or more specific, this is good
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Okay, so you're saying that the media looks good. Follow up question: do you think the image gallery is used well? I'll add your comments to the list below.
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Education looks fine, though the long lists could be condensed into a table (or given some prose if there is any coverage), and the above notes on images
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You say you "assume" that there are instances where the grammar needs to be fixed. What makes you think that? Not every article has messed-up grammar.
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That still doesn't quite answer all the questions. If everything is fine, that's good, as long as you've looked at all the details. Have you read
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For much of 1908, there were legal disagreements about whether the project could be paid-for, and remain within the city's debt limit
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The disagreements surrounded whether the project could be funded without having to raise the debt ceiling. I have rephrased that.
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I renamed this "political representation". Sunset Park doesn't have a long or notable political history that I could describe.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The post office/zip code section seems to be too minor to be its own section, is there somewhere else the info could go?
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Transit to South Brooklyn was established, starting with a ferry service to the cemetery, which was established in 1846
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I don't understand what you mean when you say "most words need commas and there is a sentence maybe consider wordies"
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seems to conflate the two terms to suggest preterm mothers or teenage babies... is there another possible phrasing?
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I just re-read the article and it turns out the grammar is good which no issues and all sources are very good.
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Were you planning on starting this? I could give you some questions to ponder to help reviewing, maybe?
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Does everything have an in-line citation? Can sources be found in the article? Are all the sources
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Do refs need to be in the lead? None of them seem to be controversial or not later mentioned
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After New York abolished slavery in 1827, there were 55 African Americans living in the area.
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Other points of interest good - the 'circa' could be made into 'c.', but it should be fine
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decimating the last vestiges of the business district built around the Third Avenue Line
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Green spaces good, particularly good handling of coverage for the park Sunset Park
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Is the gallery (with large images) of schools needed? Maybe one for the section?
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Early settlement subsection good (i.e. checked for style, neutrality, coverage)
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I should've rephrased that grammar part I said but there's one sentence,
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Thanks for the comments. I have fixed or addressed the above queries.
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I'll give a try on this one, will post a review as soon as possible.--
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on hold See comments above, well-written article with some questions
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has abandoned this review, with no response to pings in January?
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Still there's no mistakes and there's no confusion to read.--
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We can definitely approach the writing section-by-section.--
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Is there a simpler way to say "socioeconomic bifurcation"?
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Religion good, though the images could be a bit smaller
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format in line with the MOS appropriate to the subject?
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got the ping. It needs to be done on a separate line.
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Same notes on Health section as with police and fire
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Land use intro and Residential stock subsection good
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