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Hi, thanks for starting the review. As a co-creator of the page, I will try to answer your questions. I changed the lead per your suggestion. I'm not sure if we can find any retrospective views that aren't already sourced in the article; the incident of the
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I reworded it as a statement, not as an attribution. I searched a lot but couldn't find a statement from the US immigration department.
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