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Given we seem to be have a slow edit war on the article on this issue, we should have a discussion here. Should it be in the lead. I note the 2020 census found 11 African-American/Black people in
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We were heading towards an edit war and he did come up with a weak source to which I added some necessary caveats (which he then reverted). I'm not sure what 'wealthiest' should be but median income is probably better than average, given that someone like Bill Gates could move into a small community
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This page has some painfully obvious errors that I don't exactly know how to address other than bringing up in this discussion page. Firstly, it needs to cite its source for the 2000 census. That leads to the second problem. Am I the only one to seriously doubt that the average male yearly income is
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Woodside, Hillsborough, and Atherton, just to name a few. Multiple towns in Marin county have also been reported on in the same fashion." - Post
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who disagree with you, but let your hypocrisy be visible to the public. Or like I said above, go spend days scrubbing
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There are multiple towns in San Mateo county that are whiter than PV. Three towns which I have checked and confirmed do not have this in the headline of their respective pages: Woodside, West Menlo Park, and Ladera. This is not just inconsistent across
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It should not be in the lead. There are thousands of towns in
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I'm not sure why you reverted all the work I put into the article and labeled it a 'minor revision' given that I left the claim of wealthiest alone (except making it clear what was meant by wealthiest). Why remove the citation for why
Ormondale school has the name it has or the info on the Alpine
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Historically, Portola Valley hasn't allowed multifamily housing complexes to be built in town. As a result, the community is a homogenous enclave: 75% white (compared to 35% in San Mateo county overall), with a median household income of $ 250,000 and an average home value of $ 3.8 million. As of
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Since you keep relentlessly changing this article to include mostly white in the lead, I am providing sources that highlight your so called relevant fact in 11 other Bay Area towns - none of these have this in the lead of their towns on
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I've just removed a list of attractions because it was without references and said nothing about why each item was an attraction (and frankly most didn't seem very attractive, i.e., something that people might go out of their way to see, though they might fall in the category of amenities). Each
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I don't see any reason to include "mostly white" at the top, considering that many thousands of American cities qualify for that description. Let's simply quote the sources stating racial percentages and the word "homogenous", placing this material further down in the article body.
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A quick poke around Google suggests there's arguably enough information on Bill Lane to produce a separate article on him under the notability criteria. There's already a Bill Lane article in the system, and would require more research, but I figured it was worth mentioning.
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It’s not my job to teach you how to Google search. You know you are unable to refute my claim, because a simple search of the demographics pages of the towns I listed prove my point. At minimum, I’m glad the public record will always prove your bias and show your pettiness.
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as having the highest average household income. Of course one can argue about median versus average and whether per household or per capita to determine "wealthiest". I'm willing to accept reliable sources and a reasonable definition but none have been given yet.
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Ok we now have a source though it is per capita rather than median household or median family income which is used in many other lists (per capita can be affected by live-in versus commuting servants and also number of children).
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