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it being tainted by the geopolitical tensions of the time make it near worthless when there are certainly critiques from actual artists and art critics. This sentence: 'One modern art critic was asked in 2002 to review some of Hitler's paintings without being told who painted them. He said they were quite good, but that the different style in which he drew human figures represented a profound lack of interest in people' is what we should have more of, although the critic should be named.
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It looks pretty objective to me; the negative opinions are sourced and represent the consensus regarding AH's art. If he had not gone into politics it seems unlikely he would be remembered for his art. The tone of this article is no more negative than warranted, and can be compared to articles about
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The article says the pictures are not shown because of their controversial nature. This is vague. Does it mean: artistically controversial; that they were painted by Hitler and it would be controversial to exhibit something by him as a person; they depict a subject matter that is controversial e.g. a
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Apologies if I'm not editing this correctly. However, far from 'proving' his paintings as "grim" as this entry misquotes them, Collotti and Mariani actually state that "his water colours show that as a painter Hitler was anything but 'grim'", stating that it was in fact his "political programme" that
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I added the proper reference for the 'stilted' claim if you want to review it. I think we should ignore WW2 era criticsm as it is hard to say how objective and fair that criticism is or whether it was motivated by politics. John Gunther is not an artist nor an art critic so his opinion combined with
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The language used in the article to describe his art feels rather dismissive and contemptuous. For example, phrases such as "Hitler's style was very stilted when representing architecture in his paintings. Instead of progressing, his works copied from nineteenth century and other artists", go beyond
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The DYK discussion touched in the issue of publication ... I would say that any images that were sold by the young Hitler on the streets of Vienna were definitely published under US law. Another question is whether copyright in Austria at that time was opt-in or opt-out ... if the former, then this
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To my untrained eye, Blumen-Arrangement picture in this article seems to contradict the notion that he does not draw plants nicely, and Mother Mary picture in this article seems to contradict that he does not draw humans nicely, it would benefit the article if more of his paintings are elaborated.
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While placing emphasis on the historical context is important, especially considering that we're dealing with a historical figure, the article somewhat blends his political actions with critiques of his art, which will skew the reader's perception. The article is about his art, ergo, the primary
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Upon reading through the article, I've noticed that it generally doesn't read in a non-biased manner, and I believe this is because, well, it's literally Hitler. I think a small overhaul in the tone of the article may be necessary but I don't want to do anything without getting some consensus.
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While this page includes some quotes that criticise Hitler's artistic skills (which is good! It provides insight into what those who are more educated in the artistic field believe), the article doesn't provide very much balance by including viewpoints that are neutral or, if they exist, even
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The section "Use of art as a political tool" doesn't seem to contain any information about Hitler's paintings. This might be better suited for another article, and the information therein is probably already described elsewhere. Perhaps it could be deleted here, what do you think?
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If there are no objections, I will create a section on the exhibitions of Jake and Dinos Chapman, which used modified Hitler works in a modern exhibition. The exhibition had a lasting effect on the value and awareness of hitler's work according to sources.
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The article as is suggests that criticism was universal that Hitler was a bad painter; this is not the case. I've added the reference to Spotts, and I'm sure there are others. Art is subjective, particularly if one can separate the subject from the
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slightly positive statements regarding his artistic skills. If there are art historians or critics who have commented on his work in a less negative light, maybe those perspectives should be included to provide a more rounded view?
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apply only to work under copyright as of the effective date in 1995 (The WWII thing is not an issue with the paintings; they were executed long before the war). Second, the works were painted in
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Yeah, it’s also mainly full of Hitler’s own opinions on his style which is of little value considering there is much that others have said of his work contemporary to him and since his passing.
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There are several press reports about four paintings of Disney characters by Adolf Hitler. While the authenticity of those paintings is still questionable (remember the
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whole discussion is moot. If the latter, they may still be PD since the original copyright term might well have expired prior to 1995, both in the US and Austria.
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objective critique and border on pejorative commentary, instead of neutral observation. This kind of language is contributive to an overall negative tone.
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The part about the art critic does not appear in the page cited. I’m pretty sure it’s nowhere in the book. Where is that tidbit actually from?
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I entirely agree that we should have more of that sort of thing. If I have time today, I'll look into critique by modern standards
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most of this section is uncited and opinionated. not sure if i should butcher it in pruning or leave it.
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murder? I would guess the second one, inwhich case the pictures are not controversial, the artist is.
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for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
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focus should be on his art, with historical context as the background rather than the forefront.
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other people whose artistic endeavors have impressed neither the critics nor the public, e.g.,
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How far of a stretch is it to suggest that Hitler consumed substances that destroyed his mind?
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Hi! Thanks for checking in. Sorry I took a bit to respond, here are my 3 main issues:
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The article could benefit from at least one image, and maybe more. I'm not sure
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It's because of the person who drew them being rather controversial.--
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Watercolor Sets with Toxic Amounts of Lead being Sold in Manila Stores
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Article in general appears to be fairly hostile towards Hitler.
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Recent articles, have yet to search for historical documents.
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Template:Did you know nominations/Paintings by Adolf Hitler
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High levels of toxic lead found in 5 local watercolor sets
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There wasn't that much to destroy. Hitler was a robot.
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Hitler als Cartoonist Zwölf Micky-Filme für den "Führer"
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Watercolor paints can contain neurotoxic substances
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