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Portuguese {that is also unsupported by any evidence - moreover, the date of construction in 1568 is during the Portuguese period!}), then the present Paradesi Synagogue at Kochi, but the article is blurry on that, and I don't have the facts clear enough to venture the rewrite. Also, how did the Inquisition come to destroy a synagogue? I thought they had authority only over those who had converted to Christianity. They would not normally have had authority over openly practising Jews in a place where Judaism was legal. --
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This links states that " In 1968, Indira Gandhi attended its quarter-centenary celebrations and the Indian government issued a special commemorative stamp on the occasion." I am apprehensive that "quarter-centenary celebrations" is a mistake and it is telling about celebrations after 400 years of its
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in Kochi. It is for this reason that the more appropriate term used by the Cochin jews themselves is Malabar Yehudan or Malabari Juden, because they first settled in Kodungallur and the moved to Cochin. All the cities and towns that the Jews in Kerala lived are in the Malabar coast within Kerala and
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Is 4th century correct? {no! the earliest evidence for Jewish presence in Kerala is in the Kollam copper plates. They earliest evidence for Jewish settlement is a tombstone dated 1269 in Chendamangalam of a woman called Sarah Bat Israel.} In what sense was the Cranganore synagogue "original"? What
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Some of this has been slighty cleared up in the article, but most of it is still a mess, including any clarification as to what was "moved" from Kodungallur to Kochi. I gather (mostly from talk, below) that there was first a synagogue at Kodungallur, then one at Kochi (which was destroyed by the
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This line in the history section has been removed probably in the absence of any reference: "In 1968, the 400th anniversary of the synagogue was celebrated in a ceremony attended by Indira Gandhi, the Indian Prime Minister." However, I find a reference to this effect in the following link:
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A.D. which is the 4 th century A.D. Probably they came together with the Knanaya people. {this Knowledge entry doesn't mae any sense! no references to established scholarship whatsoever! Better remove it!}
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was destroyed in the portuguese inquisition of the Malabari Jews and Nasrani people of Kerala. The second synagogue built under the protection of the King of Kochi along with
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and contains the words "in Cochin". Obviously, she must have made the statement during the celebrations after 400 years of establishment of Paradesi Synagogue. --
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It is nice that an edit which I had started is receiving attention - thanks for all corrections and further edits. Sure, wikipedians make the experience great.--
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because it was made with Dutch patronage. Besides under the Dutch, kerala was a dutch province, and thus the name paradesi synagogue or "foreign synagogue".
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exactly was "moved"? And which is more correct, "Kodungaloor" or "Kodungallur", they are clearly two transliterations of the same name. --
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01:30, May 7, 2005 (UTC) {there is no evidence for a synagogue ever existing in Kodungallur, except for legends and myths.}
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addendum: according to the cochin jewish tradition the copper plates of privileges given to Joseph Rabban was in the year
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There is another reference from a book named "Jewish Communities in Exotic places" which attributes a statement to
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seems to be the most widely used with 7050 hits in the google. while the other are only few hundred hits.
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There are lots of transliteration for Kodungallur - Kodungallor, Kodungallur, Kodungaloor etc.
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http://asianjewishlife.org/pages/articles/AJL_Issue_8/AJL_Feature_Parur-Synagogue_Cochin.html
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I removed the phrase; it was clearly wrong, whatever was intended, and just wrote "Jews".
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bit so I do not know what it is meant to refer to. Though it is the time when the
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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The Kodungallur region had the oldest known synagogue in
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