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do something with the below links. I don’t think the sex allegations is the real news, because if you look at the forums and stuff where actual residents react, they seem far more incensed about the crap being known well in advance of the levy, but kept secret, especially because as Americans who believe in innocent until proven guilty, I don’t think we should assume the allegations are true when indictments haven’t even happened yet, but it does seem pretty well factual that higher ups were aware of this for like a month and it is conveniently made news after the election? --
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really use the same measure to accurately compare a much larger city of approx 82,000 to a city of 15,000 or one with 20,000?), including it would definitely be more informative for the general public than relying on a ranking in 2006 from an relatively obscure and now seemingly defunct research group. Cleveland Magazine's annual rating the suburbs issue (June) is readily available at the local library. --
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with several historical books on Parma available at the local libraries, one even by former Parma mayor James Day, why are these books not being used as sources, particularly for the history section? This section, along with the majority of the article, needs serious updating and a greater reliance should be made to cite some of those historical books. --
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other major remodelling projects, such as the ongoing Greening of Padua. I don't remember the exact dates and what all has been done, but were someone willing to contact the school or local newspapers, I'm sure the information is out there and again this was a noteworthy event for the city and its educational history. --
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I say wait and see how it plays out. I think in indictments with a grand jury are planned for some time this week, so we'll see if it becomes a bigger news story or if just fades away. I agree though, to avoid another edit dispute on this page, it would probably be best that if anyone decides to do
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I've recently deleted much of the unsourced information per WP:ATT, though I left some of the stuff that is seemingly verifiable. I also removed the more non-notable sections, especially the sections on police chiefs, and the section on the police investigations, neither of which is sourced reliably,
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Cleveland Magazine has a safety ranking (along with education stats, housing figures, etc) each year for each Cleveland suburb - why doesn't this information make its way into the article? While Cleveland Magazine's ranking system has its own unique set of problems in calculating safety (ie. can they
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The city blowed away thousands of dollars on the Witch Hunt. The police cancelled DARE, have not replaced the police dog, and have less than 100 officers, even thoug the FBI said that Parma should have 165 officers to adequately protect a city of its size. The city has lost more officers, including
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Hello! There’s fairly widespread media attention this week to the possibility that the mayor’s administration may have tried covering up or keeping hush about some internal police investigation until after the police levy passed in an election. Maybe, 164, Wizardman, Swatjester, or Wikipedian, can
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It might be worth mentioning that John Muir Elementary School, a very old school in Parma, caught on fire at one point within the past 20 years and has since agressively remodelled the school and its grounds. I'm not aware of any other school fires in the city and its remodelling is consistent with
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There's definitely a problem with the history section when 1/4 of it refers to the humorous (although inaccurate) take on Parma by local tv comedians. The reference to Ghoulardi, Big Chuck, etc should be removed from the history section and added to a pop culture section if anywhere at all. Also,
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Why is Stearns Homestead museum listed as the photo for Parma? Parma is not a farm community and the photo does little to accurately represent Parma. Why not a photo of the historic shopping area around Snow/Ridge or a nice Cleveland skyline view from Parma's State/W. Ridgewood intersection? The
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Probably not necessary as in just a few moments, I was able to find all kinds of references to pretty much everything under dispute online. You and the anonymous people seemed to quick to revert when some quick web searches seems to resolve everything and even uncovers some interesting new
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I have tried adding the following reference tonight, but every time I attempt to do so, I get some kind of spam filter error thing about some link, which is odd, because the reference I am trying to add isn't even a link. Anyway, Michael Moore discusses Parma's GM plant in Michael Moore,
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My advice is if you want to include the section on the police investigations, with reliable sources, that should be it's own article, which you COULD have a current event tag on. At this point however, it doesn't have enough reliable sources to be includable.
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The article says, "See the history section of this article for possible reasons for this decline," but I don't really see any relevant information in the history section, unless the reason for the decline is political scandals and sagging power lines.
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information. Heck, I had all but forgotten about that water crisis that accompanied the black out and was surprised it wasn't included, because I recall the TV news calling it the "worst water crisis" in Cuyahoga County's history! Cheers! --
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Regarding the undue weight, upon re-reading i was thinking this. Some of the witch hunt stuff could be reduced quite a bit, or at least knock out the unneeded unsourced stuff. Images I think I may be able to get personally. As for the Intro,
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ranking officers, than it has replaced. Thus, the facts are that the services and abilities and number of officers have decreased over the past few years and one would have to think that these things collectively do not help. Best, --
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Okay; I've reverted the edit that removed that section as I agree with your opinion here and the editor who did remove it has recently left Knowledge (XXG) anyway, so there is probably no dispute regarding it. Best,
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I can see if I have any pictures from when I lived in Parma over the weekend maybe. I would recommend merging the witch hunt and gas station ghost into the history section. I'll be bold and try that now. Best,
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Images - more images would be helpful, both photographs by Wikipedians and public domain scans of material from Parma's early history. Look for material published 1922 or earlier; that should be free now.
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I've moved a couple of sections and had a look at the article. It's pretty well sourced so far, and might be fun to help raise to GA. Three things to work on would be:
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Good work so far. Although I'm nowhere near Ohio, I'd be glad to lend a hand with image cropping/rotation, copyediting, and things like that. Best wishes,
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I'm not sure of the encyclopedic value of this, as you seemed shaky, too other than perhaps the whole city hall tension continuing. What do others think? --
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Perhaps the person who wrote that could explain why using that phrase to identify a date is more informative or efficient than simply writing "March 15."
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in my email today as one of those chain youtube links people send, so not sure if its getting enough coverage to warrant anything. Sincerely, --
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I think it's unfortunate the "references in popular culture" was removed. Better it had been left with "citation needed" added.
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skyline view, for instance, would likely be most appropriate to indicate Parma is one of the Cleveland area's suburbs. --
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nor encyclopedic or notable. I also removed the current events tag at the top: a city cannot be a current event.
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Possible big news about city government sitting on investigation until after yet another tax passes?
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Hm, this is probably abotu the same notability as that whole witch hunt thingy.--
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Allegations of sexual misconduct against two Parma officers:
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I'll move the current event tag to the right place. Best, --
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