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More about the code. I see the C code has been restored. I don't think this is an improvement. Why don't we just cut out the code altogther (in any language). Having an algorithm to print out some rows of the triangle doesn't have much to do with Pascal's triangle. I originally put in the Python
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Hello, Iprogram with a much shorter, and, I hope, more comprehensible program. The goal here is to help people understand Pascal's triangle. I don't think the gyrations needed to get the numbers to line up were aiding that understanding. I also don't think the standard Java cruft (class name,
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