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this article before and am unaware of any discussions regarding this claim (though nothing appears in a search of the talk pages). Besides the lack of a cite, it's unclear what constitutes a navigable river. The Susquehanna, for instance, is shallow and rocky over much of its length, and the Genesee, though perhaps navigable downstream in New York, is just headwaters in Pennsylvania. Does anyone have any further info on this claim?
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There is a statement in the opening section that Pennsylvania has the most navigable rivers of any U.S. state. There is no cite for the claim, and it is not expanded upon anywhere else in the article. I've commented the statement out rather than deleted it at this point, as I have not contributed to
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doesn't understand that you can align some images to the left, and seemingly doesn't yet understand that there's still too many images. Same for the Philadelphia article's history section pushing content down. What do we do now? Bring it to a discussion board with others? -
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has, for a series of months, operated in a mode of claimed ownership over this Knowledge (XXG) article. As discussions regarding this have been held on their talk page for imagery regarding this article and others—dating as far back as January 2023 between themselves and
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The history section has too many images, and several historical images are pushed into the geography and climate section, leaving unnecessary white-space. There's also the random image of John Morton, which does not even apply to demographics. -
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The final example of my contributions in contrast to Keystone18's narrative on their talk page and in edit summaries, revealing a properly formatted article.
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And yes, I undid my revision to their talk page, allowing them to continue to maintain their own narrative. As the saying goes, give someone enough rope. -
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The only problematic image is the one on the upper left with excessive white space, but none of these are even of the sections in which you moved images.
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Images when placed to the left, which are proper according to their sections and does not push the content down. Image captions match the sub-sections.
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OK. It's been well over a year now, and there has been no discussion on whether a split might occur (or consensus on how it might be undertaken). I've
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Lead is too long; too detailed; excessive statistics; a Lead should not have 12 citations; material can be incorporated in other sections
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Third example of my contributions, when placed to the left which keeps this sub-section of history's images and captions properly placed.
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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
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Contribution by Keystone18, which pushes history and geographic content down, and adds unnecessary blank space.
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Fourth of example of my contributions, which doesn't impede on the geography section nor those following.
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until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.
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Pennsylvania is NOT landlocked. The Port of Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania. Please correct.
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I see no crowding in that screenshot, and neither has anyone else to my knowledge.
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