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There isn't such thing as acceptable bias, we should maintain a neutral point of view throughout the article. I have not seen any unwarranted removals and I encourage you to continue editing the article. To be clear, I am agreeing with your concerns over grammar, bias and organisation, and for the
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Antonio Halili. I agree that this have so many issues to fix, that I
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Perhaps you should at least restore information on the implementation of "draconian measures", "a local-government unit-led approach" to the COVID-19 pandemic, expansion of COVID-19 testing capacity, and appointing of czars to respond to the pandemic; since these are not "too much" detail for the
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Thank you for your insights. I believe the administration itself opted to use the term "draconian measures" (please see the ABS-CBN citation). I also think the dependence of the administration in the military and police in enforcing the health guidelines should be restored; other more critical
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Unfortunately, deleting content just because it exists in other articles is easier than spending months to make an article thorough and comprehensive enough. You left no summary when vital information such as the NTF-ELCAC, ICC withdrawal, Leila de Lima's arrest, and the
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I've removed information that can be found in other articles and is not as directly important to the presidency of
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