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I travelled by sleeper bus (bunks) Golmud - Lhasa, and back; 26 hours each way, with additional hours for breakdowns. Which are certain, the only question being how many hours for breakdowns. Plus injuries to passengers (I was flung against the roof twice; on a different trip a Swiss fellow three
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Okay. But we have refs that Qinghai-Tibet Railway is used in both common and (somewhat, by your argument) official contexts. Is there any reference that the "Qingzang Railway" is used in preference, whether as a common name or official name? Without references, to say that 青藏铁路 translates as
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