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Omg, dude, you need to calm down and learn how to talk to other people! All I'm asking is why you remove other pronouciations and why you think some ways of saying Quebec in
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In French, the term "Quebécois" just refers to anything pertaining to Quebec. In
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This article uses the term "Quebecois" to describe everything - all people from Quebec, all companies based in Quebec, the territory of Quebec... in French that would be fine, but in
English it just makes the text sometimes confusing. So I'm revising the article's use of the term to be clearer. I'm
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So, I understand that you want to include a certain pronounciation, which is "Kwee-Bek", in the lead paragraph. I don't have any problems with this personally, I know some people say it that way. What I don't get is why you want to remove the other pronounciations -the most common of "Kuh-Bec" and
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English. There is only an official spelling. Using spellings in a dictionnary is also not an end-all-be-all because wikipedia articles are also about reflecting how things are said in real life, not just what an obscure dictionary says. I don't know, in fact, know how
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Montreal, Rigaud, Northern Quebec, and the Eastern Townships while Indigenous languages are spoken in First Nations communities across Quebec. Such a section should be created since these ethnic groups are an integral part of Quebec society.
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Francophone culture of Quebec generally. It's a term with a lot of ambiguities in English, and if not used carefully can be misleading, especially for people from outside Quebec who are unaware of its complicated meanings.
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