Talk:Ravana/Archive 1

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Knowledge should not move in opposite extreme and put unverified , imaginary opinions. Ravana has been depicted accepting the slander imposed on his charecter in the epic. What should be recognised is that there was aggression into the areas where the non aryan tribes lived since thousands of years and it took the form of rishies and munies strayng into the areas where the non aryan tribes lived and establlshing ashrams and the sought kings protection against resistance to this intrusion. another important factor is that historians have identified vidhya mountains as the area where Ravana and vanaras lived.gnnagaraj51

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person, what Ramayanaya says becomes almost truth and everyone believe it. I have heard a saying "When someone tell a lie thousand times, it becomes a truth". In Ramayana itself says why Ravana kidnapped Sitha, it is because Rama had punished Ravana's sister. And also Ramayana says Ravana had not tried to marry seetha byforce and She had to and had proved she had not broken her 'pathi wurtha'(chastity) . If Ravana was evil, he surely do what he want byforce. And In the last case, Since Seetha had to prove her chastity by jumping to a fire, I think the evil man is the Rama who even didn't trust his beloved wife.

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explain why he has not raped her as was otherwise his wont with unwilling brides. During the assault on Lanka, Ravana uses his womenfolk. His niece is instructed to mimic Sita and float past Rama's camp as her corpse. The ruse is undone when they prepare to cremate her. Hanuman woos her and they have a monkey-demon son. The mermaid, Sovann Machha, his daughter, is entrusted with the destruction of Rama's Bridge. She is wooed and won by Hanuman who fathers a son who is a mer-monkey. It may be that these are two versions of the same tale - though different relationships to Ravana are stated. ff.

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people who live in North India. "The Hindu" is India's number one news paper publisher. Hindus accept that Ravana is a Sinhalese. Sri Lankans are proud Ravana is a Sinhalese. Both parties were in the mythical battle accept Ravana is a Sinhalese. But Tamils who never participated to this war trying to imply Ravana is a Tamil considering greatness of Ravana. Rakshs who lived in SL are sub ethnic group of Sinhalese. They are ancestors of Sinhalese. Country was converted to Buddhism in 250BC so then after they wasn't called as Rakshas because they too converted into Buddhism over worshiping Raksha.

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Indian invasion. This page is needed to rewritten in neutral manner. Some Sri Lankan myths says Ravana was very powerful capable ruler and others couldn't fight with Ravana so they wrote a book in which they made him as a antagonist and reverted his real world victories by writing a novel. I doesn't mean to remove any of myths written against him. But to mention Ravana's cruelty, raping women stories are taken from the hindu myth story Ramayanaya. Otherwise stating them as real facts will harm the image of a famous Sri Lankan hero. I will put neutrality tag for heavily based on Ramayanaya.

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out by the writer of the poem, Valmiki, two thousand years after the alleged happenings in his epic version of the events. This story, which became a folk-tale has been retold for perhaps, hundreds of generations in an oral tradition that goes back at least four thousand years – and that’s a lot of time during which a tale could have been embroidered in the telling and re-telling as little details were added or forgotten according to the imagination and skill of the teller of tales" can be said of contemporary tyrants.

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poem, Valmiki, two thousand years after the alleged happenings in his epic version of the events. This story, which became a folk-tale has been retold for perhaps, hundreds of generations in an oral tradition that goes back at least four thousand years – and that’s a lot of time during which a tale could have been embroidered in the telling and re-telling as little details were added or forgotten according to the imagination and skill of the teller of tales.

31: 1026:?Or which Sinhalese historic imprint documents his existence?Further, Buddhism historically was not the exclusive preserve of the Sinhalese in South Asia as elements here try to make it to be. Tamils, both in India and Lanka had adopted Buddhism in large numbers at one time, as it was a breeze of fresh air that swept away the cobwebs and dust in the form of rituals, foolishness and casteism that had buried the essence of Hinduism. 692:

väva and that during the war between Rama and Ravana that Hanuman, the monkey god4 cleft the bund in two and millions of liters of water rushed through the breach and barreled its way north towards the almost flat site of Badulla town, where it settled. It is also true that when one travels to Badulla from Bandarawela that the sides of the narrow pass through which one goes are scraped down to bedrock... Myth, legend or fact?

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BC. Most likely, the events of the original Ramayana, which formed the basis of the work of Valmiki, occurred in the 14th or 13th millennia BC. Which nations at that time could conquer Lanka? Those who now are considered the indigenous population of the island (by Lanka I mean Sri Lanka). It would be more logical to be proud of Rama, under whose leadership the modern population of Sri Lanka settled the island.

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go and write my own version but it would be bogus. In theological discussion only Valmiki Ramayana is sastra pramana (qualified to be used as epistomological evidence) no other version has this status, they are just the creation of poet's imagination. Not so of the Valmiki Ramayana. If it is not corroborated by the Valmiki Ramayana or one of the authentic puranas, then any statement about Ravana is bogus.

985:. Would this in anyway prove that these people were the exclusive ancestors of the present Sinhala – speaking people in Sri Lanka? What proof is there that Ravana did not speak Tamil or a proto-Tamil language, as Ramayana confirms that he was a Lord Siva worshipper (Saivite) and an un-surpassed exponent of classical (carnatic) music, who swayed Lord Siva himself with his rendering in the ‘Naattai’ ragam. 825: 268:

own sister-in-law). He then proceeded to meet later Shamabra Asura and raped his wife when a guest at his house (Chatursena 's Vyam Raksham). Shambara 's wife was Mandodri 's sister and hence Ravana's sister-in-law. Ravana was arrested and faced death penalty. His uncles appealing to Divodasa and Dasratha attacked shamabra and killed him, rescusing Ravana. Dasratha thus saved Ravana 's life.

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crater, much like the crater caused by a nuclear detonation at ground level. The black soil could be nuclear ash. It is also a fact that the curious Moon Plains is pockmarked by craters. Gold was panned here in the Nineteenth century and it is entirely possible that the area contains tektites or minerals fused under extreme heat like that of a nuclear explosion close to the ground.

1615:. There was no Aryan/Indo-Aryan/Sinhalese presence in Sri Lanka before Vijay landed according to the Karthigesu Indrapala your own source of reference.So what makes you not admit to that? And merely reverting edits without giving a consensus in the talk page could attract ANI' attention and I hope you would try to follow their guidelines while you are-- 1611:, very imaginative term but nothing like that ever existed in South India/Sri Lanka before Vijaya came.Yakshas,Nagas,Rakshas all are Proto-Dravidian communities who evolved and belonged from the same civilisations the Tamils of India evolved to.Genetic studies show that Sri Lankan Tamils are more or less are descendants of the same tribes, and 2919:

This article seems to be about a somewhat controversial topic, and is subject to repeated drive-by vandalism/POV pushing from unregistered users. Additionally, even registered users frequently add poor-quality edits (typically broken English and the like). Something really needs to be done to improve

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The Identity of Lanka with Sri Lanka is impossible because the tale of the Ramayana took place at the end of Tretayuga (2 yugas ago!) but Sri Lanka became an island only 6000 years ago and was before that date a part of the indian subcontinent (M.D. Muthukumaraswamy (Editor): Indian Folklore Research

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In Bandarawela, on the way to Badulla, is a place known as ‘Bindunuwewa’ which means the place where the reservoir bund was smashed or breached. An incurable curiosity led me to question an old villager who told me that a huge area of the Uva Valley round and about Bandarawela was an enormous lake or

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Nuwara Eliya is known to us as the ‘City of Light’ and was, until the British discovered it, a gently rolling plateau inhabited by a large population of wild elephants. There is nor record of human habitation. Why, then the ‘City of Light?” Was this the place of the ‘light of a million suns?’ Perhaps

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One version of Sita's abduction has it that she is actually Ravana's daughter whom he had ordered killed to prevent the fatal prophecy of her birth bringing him undone. In a change of heart, he seeks to love her from afar, but his possessive nature wins and he must have her home. This would seem to

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Raj2004, are you saying you want to alter the article to show Ravan's evil side up more? If so, you can count on my support in the matter, as long as it does not revert ultimately to what it was before I came along. I personally don't buy anything in the Ramayana as hard fact, so I think he's just an

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Who was writing accurate and verifiable History at the timeline this article belongs to ?? Is there a book written at the time of Ravna ?? it must be a stone engraved or something I suppose. How long the religions on this planet will keep dishing out hypothetical stories to the present logical man,

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The article's tone may appear to present him as a morally ambivalent figure, neither good or bad, sort of like a Pontius Pilate type of figure or at worst a good king. Second, according to the Bhagavata purana, there's a similar satan-like story. Ravana, according to that account was the incarnation

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I don't think the article does that. In fact, many Hindus may feel offended by the tone. It would be like stating the the Bible is hopelessly biased against Lucifer or Satan. Satan was once an angel but then became evil. In which countries is Ravana viewed as good? In Thailand, and Indonesia and all

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In my opinion, it is quite obvious that Ravana is not a man, and can not be regarded as a human race. It is necessary to have a perverted mind to reckon this being to oneself like, and even more so to be proud of it. I am skeptical about the English chronology, which puts events of the epic in 3000

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Unfortunately this page DOES NOT take into account only the Valmiki Ramayana. The Valmiki Ramayana is the only authentic rendition of this historical event. It is NOT folk lore or mythology, it is the history of ancient India. All other "alternate" versions of the Ramayana have no standing. I could

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who said you that Sinhalese were Refugees,Sinhalese are indeed not but SL Tamils could be,Sinhalese are an admixture of 4 ancient tribes + Aryans (Aryans in the sense,Prince Vijaya and his followers + other later migrations),Ravana was a Rakasha,and its one of 4 Sinhala sub tribes,Sinhala formed as

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as some irrational elements would like to proclaim. Modern day DNA studies also confirm that we have very much in common genetically. To call all Tamils, ‘Immigrants’, is an unpardonable travesty of truth and to consider the Sinhala-speakers residing in Sri Lanka as the only legitimate heirs to the

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The Indian Readership Survey (IRS) 2012 revealed that HT has a readership of (3.8 Millions), placing it as the second most widely read English newspaper in India after The Times of India. Don't replace content in HT by content in transcurrents.com, www.saibabaofindia.com , M.S. Purtialingam Pillai.

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The following statement: "Here is a great warrior-king who terrorized his enemies, a genius in his day and age who bestrode his island kingdom like a colossus. His exploits were many and hence, indelibly fixed in the minds of simple, ordinary people of whom he is well beloved and no ‘demon’ as made

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Another curious thing is that the subterranean cave system behind the Ella Falls (Ravana Ella Falls) is said to be connected to the Isthripura cave system at Uva Paranagama, near Welimada, and that this cave system ends near the banks of the Mahaveli Ganga at Mahiyangana! For speleologists, this is

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According to scholars researching antiquity and reconstructing the past, Râvana lived in 2,357 BCE. That’s a long, long time ago and obscured by the significant lack of written records that have survived to the present era. Folk tales and poems or stories written thousands of years after the events

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In Indonesian versions of Ramayana and Jaina Ramayana as well as other instances of Ravan's rape of women are mentioned. He started his career of conquest with coup de etat against his oldeer brother Kubera who was away from Lanka on assignement when Ravana betrayed him and raped Kubera's wife (his

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from which the material presented has been obtained. I agree with a rational approach suggested here. the opinions expressed in this discussion are also highly subjective and objectionable. While the post on Ravana is not neutral and is carrying all the baggage of prejudices in the Ramayana kavya,

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He was a Sinhalese. Sri Lankan and North Indian (Hindi), who wrote orginal Ramayana believes Ravan was Sinhalese ( The Hindu reference). As per Sri Lankan myths Ravana is very powerful , Raksha king lived in Sri Lanka who had two children named meganand and other but not mentioned any of Sita or

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Here is a great warrior-king who terrorized his enemies, a genius in his day and age who bestrode his island kingdom like a colossus. His exploits were many and hence, indelibly fixed in the minds of simple, ordinary people of whom he is well beloved and no ‘demon’ as made out by the writer of the

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A lot of Indian historians believe and argue that the Ramayana is a legend, not history. This is due to the different ways that Rama's story is told in Javanese, Malaysian, and Indian cultures, among others. In addition, in the Buddhist Ramayana, the storyline is completely different and does not

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Actually Emperor Ravana is one of the greatest king of all time. It is described that king Rama was surprised and praised Lanka as it was very impressive in Valmikis Ramyana. Its not that Emperor Ravana had 10 heads, Ramayana states that Ravana was excelled in 10 arts its "Pathu kalai" not "Pathu

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too. You seems so confident that there are no ancient Lankan sources about Ravana?. On the other hand,you try to tell that you possess all required sources,then,why this article needs additional citations for verification? is it also mythical? you may fill up the verification from chronicles for

1658:- A blog; blogs are not accepted as sources at Knowledge. Interesting though, because it gives (again) twists and speculations on the Tamil origins of the oldest people of Sri Lanka. I think it cannot be considered a trustworthy source, but it does reflect the sensitivities surrounding this topic. 642:

Across the wide expanse of the Indian Ocean, in Thailand and Kampuchea and on the Island of Bali in the Indonesian archipelago, the story immortalized by Valmiki in his epic poem, the Ramayana forms the core element of the cultures of these countries as expressed in their exquisite dance-theatre.

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Saw some reverts, so adding my view - similar to what said by Chariotrider555 - from what I have read in various texts and other places I think "is" would be appropriate there because it is used within the context of the "Hindu epic Ramayana". But let's say I was talking of Rama then I would say

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All these I have stated, only for argument's sake.For one he is just a mythical figure popular to all Hindu-worshiping sects in the world who associate him with the very image of Lanka. Only for the sake to counter your utterly inglorious and pitiable shot at branding him as one of your own, I'm

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How advanced was the world at that time? According to a passage in the Rig-veda, 2 describing the war between the Suras and Asuras3 chillingly describe an unbelievable event: “They hurled their shining shafts at each other. When the shafts hit the earth, they exploded with the light of a million

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In this article itself shows a picture of King Ravana as a guardian of a temple in Thailand. If he is considered as a evil king by Thailand people, They'll never build his statue as a guardian for a temple. And also since Ramayana is a popular book for hundred of years, even if Ravana was a good

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It seems that describing Ravana "evil" and calling him a "demon" is hardly neutral. It is merely the view expressed in Ramayana. Ravana is viewed in many parts of the world as a good king and a scholar (as the article does metion). Thus it seems that the article is a Rama-centric view of Ravana.

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Ramayanaya is one story written about ravana. But you can't only insert things in India about Sinhalese king. Much privileged should be given to facts from SL. But here it hasn't happened. Bad image has been made on a Sinhalese king. But lets forget it for while. Ramayanaya has written by Hindi

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Hakgala, south of Nuwara Eliya and the site of an exotic botanic garden, is a three peaked mountain much like a jaw-tooth, hence its name: Jaw-tooth Rock or mountain. King Râvana is said to have had a medicinal herb garden here and is also said to have tested his famous ‘Dandu-monara’ aircraft.

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We all know that one of the places where Sita was confined is Sita Eliya, near Nuwara Eliya. It is also a fact that the entire area around Nuwara Eliya has a black soil, cinder-like and totally infertile; to a depth of 25 to 75 centimeters and that the site of Lake Gregory today could be a huge

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3. Moralizing such "piety without virtue is useless" should be avoided in the Ravana article. If that was Valmiki's opinion, then it must be cited with source. The article is not supposed to be an editorial on Ravana. I can equally well write "Rama's lesson teaches us that even if we indulge in

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Asura actually refers to anyone who acts evil ro does ruthless things the indian poet just portrays ravana as evil because ravana at that time was trying to conqueor india also Sita was not raped or anyhitng she was kept under guard and safe and the only reason ravana did steal her was becuase

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Being a European, I'm quite unfamiliair with the Tamil-Sinhalese conflict. Yet, as a Wikipedian, I do think that pushing POV's, from both sides, won't help. Knowledge, and interested outsiders like me, are better served with articles that give information and perspectives from both sides, the

994:, with its beginning as proto-Sinhala between the 3rd and 7th centuries AD. The indigenous people of ancient Lanka could very well have been Proto-Tamil-Saivites, a substantial number of whom subsequently adopted Buddhism and the Sinhala language. What evidence is there to prove the contrary? 800:

It is known that Ravana is a dravidian.Based on what is known and written about Ravana he follows Shaivite Hindu,he is a maestro of veenai.Currently Veenai is used all over India but in ancient time Veenai is created and used in Tamilakkam.These characteristic clearly shows that Ravanan is a

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The ‘demonization’ of a formidable adversary who was defeated because of the treachery of his brother, Vibhushana, who betrayed him and changed sides is the substance of the epic poem. That paved the way to making Rama of Ayodhya a hero and a god and a part of the Hindu pantheon. The utter

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You could walk into the humblest home in the remotest hamlet in Sri Lanka and find echoes of king Ravana. Tales of his prowess as a greatly renowned physician; his inventive genius as an aeronaut; his courage as a brave warrior and his graciousness as an outstanding gentleman are legion.

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is a fictional metal invented by Marvel comic book authors. So did the original editor mean to use either "adamant" or "adamantine" as an adjective? Because I can't tell nor can I find a proper reference to the material, I'm going to remove the link for someone to research and reference.

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This article does not exhibit a neutral point of view and it is silent about its sources. I really don't have the knowledge to fix the article, so someone else will have to do it. I think it should be divided into headings, roughly reflecting points of view. Something like this:

2369:. The fact is Ravana was never a Rakshasa but a Brahmin. People out of ignorance called him a Rakshasa. Though in some scriptures Ravana is called a person of "Rakshasa charcter" or simply "evil character" because he kidnapped someone else's wife . But it does not make him a 2307:, because it contains several uncited statements. I didn't claim that article has "all required sources" or that it's perfectly sourced. I just pointed out that the article mentions no "ancient Lankan sources", because there are none. You might as well complain that the article 216:. Also, Lakshmana cut of Surpanaka's nose, not Sita's (you appear to be implying the latter). Nowhere in the article does it state as a fact that Sita was raped either - after she was rescued, some of Rama's subjects began to become suspicious of her and spread rumours that she 1044:

Yes. Sinhalese have. But it doesn't mentioned about Rama - Ravana mythical battle. It says Ravana is empire who extends his empire into great extend in Asia. He had son (Meganada) and daughter. Ravana died peacefully. That is our story. Don't forget Ramayana is mythical story

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Based on the following extracts from the link I've posted below which raises substantial questions and points evidence regarding the dispute we are having here and I have made appropriate edits to the article as pointed out below that Ravannan was a Tamil king of Lankapuri.

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l. In which countries is Ravana viewed as good? In Thailand, and Indonesia and all parts of the world, Ravana is viewed as evil in their versions of ramayana. So it's not just an Indian point of view. see below discussion of why Ravana is considered to be a bad person.

284:, there are no any references to Danaraja's wife in Indonesian version hence, Ravana did not rape Danaraja (Kubera)'s wife in Indonesian version. In fact, usually Danaraja (Kubera) was usually described as having no wife and in one version and killed his own father, 695:

It is also strange that excavations on a hillside at Bandarawela overlooking the hospital revealed fish-hooks amongst other items. Fishing hooks on a dry hillside or was this once upon a time, a lakeside settlement? The vista below lends credence to the väva story.

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Article fails to answer "who, what, when, where, why and how" .Overall tone of the article is bias .Lankan source, witness or explanation has obviously been ignored. The article fails to present the position of main involved party in the story,Lanka.JUST GOSSIPS.

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Did you prove Hindustan time is unreliable source before replaced them ? The things you linked(transcurrents.com,..) are totally unreliable sources. First you should prove Ravana is not a sinhalese with reliable source. not with this sources like transcurrents.com

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are all we have to go on but the collective memory of human beings has endured the ravages of time and circumstance and helps us to believe that there is a core of ineradicable truth to the fact that such a remarkable individual did, indeed, live once upon a time.

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And in Indonesian Version, Ravana was not described as a raper. He was described as a cruel king and sometimes a manifestation of evil himself but he loved only one woman, Vedavati. His marriage to his queen was only a political reason after his conquest of Indra.

1155:. Is there any scientific or historical evidence for your statement, "Hindus accept that Ravana is a Sinhalese. Sri Lankans are proud Ravana is a Sinhalese. Both parties were in the mythical battle accept Ravana is a Sinhalese." Where have you got these facts? 471:

May be it was war couple of thousand years ago between two countries and the Victor has some novel imagination to glorify themsleves... that sounds more logical to me... unless I see BARK paper or stone writings to the effect and verifiable scientifically.

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The fact of the matter is that king Ravana was a remarkable monarch, so remarkable that he is part of the folklore of Sri Lanka where the humblest villager in the remotest hamlet respects his memory as a beneficent human being, neither a god nor a demon.

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To any modern person familiar with the happenings of the Nuclear Age, this is an ancient description of a massive and devastating nuclear war, a cataclysmic event that all but ended the civilization of that time. Is there any other rational explanation?

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I think it would be more fruitful if we have a discussion about what is most appropriate here on the talk page rather than continuing the edits and reverts. Would be great to hear the thoughts of those who have contributed to this article recently.

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And until these points raised are challenged or proved wrong by reliable sources, editors seeking to prove otherwise should totally refrain from editing this article failing which the issue may very well go to the ANI and the violators reported.

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across a wide range of Indic religion articles. I'm not taking any chances: if someone wants to check the removed sources - they're usually pretty obscure ones - then please feel free to do so and to reinstate material where appropriate. -

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in Tamil version of Ramayana sources which is collected from Lanka and Tamilnadu stone script and other historic materials sita is daughter of Ravanan and the name it's Ravanan he is a Tamil king pronounced as Raavanan (ராவணன்) Not Ravana

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to this day and four of the five major Siva temples (Pancha-Easwarams) are located in Sri Lanka. Rameswaram- the Siva temple in which Rama himself worshipped according to legend is the only one among the Pancha-Easwarams located in India.

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References to Ravana's Tamil prowess has been marked in the Kamba Ramayana and he is seen as a Tamil Monarch in Indonesian and Thai cultures who have their own distinct versions of the Ramayana.And Once again, both these two versions and

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parts of the world, Ravana is viewed as evil in their versions of ramayana. So it's not just an Indian point of view. Also, to say Ramayana is mythical may be questionable. Christians would be offended if we say the Bible is mythical.

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In vast regions of South and Southeast Asia, the "evil" painting of Ravana is considered as a modern continuation of an ancient lame attempt at cultural superiority. The portrayal of Ravana in this article doeesn't seem to be neutral.

2479:). Whilst it is possible that some of those contributions were accurately reflecting the sources etc, Buddhakahika is known mostly to synthesise or even outright misrepresent their sources in a long-running campaign to assert their 2425: 2420: 2416: 1606:

Why is it that you have nothing else to comment against except for only that.Prince Vijaya was a refugee, and only following his arrival, came the Mahwamsa and the Sinhalese language which originated in the forests of Orissa.

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involve Ravana kidnapping Sita. In the Jain Ramayana, on the other hand, Ravana is not shown to be the villain. Hence, when the Ramayana itself is argued to be a fictional story, how can a character in the Ramayana be real?

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and maintain the quality of this article, as it’s very important to the topic of Hinduism. I’m not very knowledgeable about this topic and don’t really specialize in major article overhauls so I can’t really help directly.

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Research has shown that the wind currents hereabouts are ideal for gliding across the entire Uva Valley and up to Namunukula, the mountain of nine peaks that overshadows Badulla like some long extinct and brooding volcano.

621:, which is depicted in theatre and dance in India, Thailand, and on the island of Bali in Indonesia all demonize Ravana as the evil demon who was vanquished by the hero, Rama, revered throughout India to this day as a god. 1707:

Worshipful Preceptor Sir The Lord of Lanka was unwilling to keep another's wife as captive for more than two months. He was indignant about the treatment meted out to Chandranakha.

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Sinhalese formulated by merging of Yaksha,raksha, deva , naga to Sinha. References are there in the Naga people of Sri Lanka. Raksha lived in SL are ancestors of Sinhalese. Who else the descendants of him. Tamils came in

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What exactly is your point? That we should not have an article on Ravana? Nowhere in the article it's been mentioned that this is accurate history. Encyclopedia is for a purpose and this article servers the purpose well.

3607:. Both 'is' and 'was' can be used in this sentence depending on the context. If there is a need to change to 'was', we can add 'according to the Ramayana' at the end of the sentence. Currently, I think we can keep 'is'. 1168:

On which basis you are right on your statement, "Rakshs who lived in SL are sub ethnic group of Sinhalese". How you have come out with genetic comparison with the mythical inhabitants of Raksha people with the Sinhalese

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Removing the "Indonesian version of Ramayana". Please next time, consult Indonesians before saying "Indonesian". And when I said Indonesians, it means 'Balinese' and 'Javanese' since both of them had different versions.

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the article no where mentions his name as ravan's brother...whereas ramayana has extracts stating the same...he was the one who had attacked laxman ji with brahma astra.... can any one throw more light on this please?

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We shoudn't argue on this. I have given reference to he is a sinhalese. Please try to understand we need something better than your word. If you want to prove he is a Tamil prove it with references. Good luck on that

1509:.He was acclaimed to be well-versed in the Vedas(The most Sacred texts of Hinduism) and Lord Shiva saved his life and bestowed him the kingdom of Lanka which he ruled more more prosperously than Kubera's Alakapuri. 1467:

If you try to expand Knowledge with your ignorance and bias on Sri Lankan Tamils, you will be very soon Indefinitely Blocked. That is all my last advise to you before I take further action on you via ANI and other

521:) 16:29, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Ravana is not of any tribe as mentioned in the above, he is an ASURA meaning a demon n in the vedic ages there were only 2 kinds of people, 1. Suras (good ones) and 2.Asuras (bad ones) 903:

Other thing is all accepted that Ravana was lived in SriLanka. HT had done a ground level research by coming to Sri Lanka before article is published. But all the other unreliable sources had only an opinion. --

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According to Sinhalese nationalists, the name Ravana (or Ravaṇa) means "Sun race", as Ra signifies the Sun and vana signifies generation. According to lankan folk stories other means for Ravana is (Ra + Vana =:

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destruction visited upon the Island of Sri Lanka almost erased the memory of its greatest king, Ravana, and it is his story, reconstructed from fragments that survive in the memory of this Island’s inhabitants.

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Vishnu, in order to show mercy, since they wanted to get back to Heaven as soon as possible permitted their birth as tyrants. So it's like the fall of Satan. Satan was the greatest angel of God before he fell.

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elven, what I am saying that we should not try to present Ravana as if he was a good person, like Jesus Christ or Krishna. He may have had some good qualties but he was overall bad. (also see Ramayana bashing,

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sources, preferably scholarly sources (i.e., academic or equivalent). There is no presumption that Valmiki Ramayana is authentic and others or not. It all depends on what the reliable secondary sources say. -

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Root of word "sinhala" is "siv" + "hela". "siv" means four and "hela" is another ancient names for Sri Lanka. So "Sinhala" means four races from "hela" Sri Lanka. Four races are yaksha, raksha, deva, naga.

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an underground paradise to explore. What, if anything did Ravana fear from the sky that impelled him to explore, plan, expand and construct a vast subterranean system? Was it to escape the ‘shining shafts?’

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argumention for those perspectives, and additional information and explanations on the nature of these argumentations. That is, is it based on historical fact, or also on interpretation of literary sources?

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Two pious devotees named Jaya and Vijaya and Sri Vishnu had appointed Vijaya doorkeepers. They felt that they were the chosen doorkeepers of Vaikunta and were always very near the Supreme Lord Narayana. :

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Journal Vol.1 No.4 Chennai (India) 2004, pages 100, 101, 104 Plate 2). I know this is widely believed and I myselve believed it but science has disproofed this. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the text?--

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In South and Southeast Asia the legend of Râvana, demon-king of Sri Lanka is very much alive – and well! But then, is it legend? Or is it truth twisted by time and circumstance into myth and legend?

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and the Tamils in Sri Lanka are currently practicing Shaivism. Even Shaivism was widely practiced once in Cambodia, Champa(today's southern Vietnam) and Java and still its influence is their with

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Hinduism and Vajrayana (Diamond Thunderbolt sect) Buddhism both occasionally use the term Adamant to represent the irresistible force - immovable object problem. It doesn't translate perfectly.

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Asuras are the early Gods in Rig Veda.Sura paan means alcoholic drink. Those who do not drink alcohol are Asura and those who drink alcohol are Sura. Ravana is not a drunkard and hence an Asura.

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the race from which the Tamils of both the Subcontinent and the Island evolved.Sinhalese were just refugees from Odhisa/Bengal and Buddhism came in centuries after Ashoka invaded your kingdom.

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He is credited with going all the way to Ayodhya in the Valley of the Ganges to abduct and bring back the alluringly beautiful Sita, wife of Rama, the legendary god-king of Bharath, (India).

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Second, he is a major character in Buddist text. That doesn't mean that he practiced Buddism... Having this blunder in the introduction to the history of the Great Ravana is seriously taken

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I saw yesterday 11.10. a religious ritual in Deli "the burning of Ravana". There is nothing in this, but in India it is reason of a public holiday. Maybe we can write somethign on that? --

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Sections 'Iconography' and 'Devotee of Lord Shiva' say that the nectar was given to Ravana by Brahma. But section 'Tapasya to Shiva' says that the nectar was given to Ravan by Shiva.

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in Sri Lanka. Even if they existed there is no guarantee there gene flow only rests within modern Sinhalese community; even their genes could be within the Sri Lankan Tamil community.

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Even if Raksha people existed in Sri Lanka; their Kings at that time should be referred as "Raksha Kings" and not with their so-called unproven descendants' modern ethnic identity.

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Ravana is a mythical King from Sri Lanka from the Raksha tribe. He is not Sinhalese or North Indian and the Sinhalese and Hindi languages are not applicable for his name reference.

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To this day leading and reputable ayurvedic or deshiya-vaidhyya5 physicians will tell you that their pharmacopeias utilizes herbal and mineral remedies attributed to King Râvana.

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suns, blinding the sight of men. A huge cloud of smoke rose and became a giant umbrella, then, it rained and after several moons, the marrow in men’s bones turned to water.”

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unknown Professors , we have given references to say Ravana is Sinhalese. The hindu article says Ravana is a Sinhalese. We doesn't need your clarifications. We need facts --

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Ravana here is shown as the grandson of Sumali in the first half of the profile and in the second half he is shown as Malyavan's grandson. Please resolve this ambiguity.

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Hello. There is a continuing back and forth between editors in the opening sentence in the lead section about whether Ravana 'was' or 'is' a multi-headed Rakshasa...

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section from this article only. Do you have any valid reason? So. I'm reverting back, please do not remove etymology section, unless it is accepted to remove here. (

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Yes, indeed, questions seeking answers. If you are intrigued enough by the story of Râvana, then you might want to dig deeper. Who knows what you might discover?

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gratuitous violence by burning down an entire island, some people may build temples for us." But such opinions, as all will agree, do not belong in the article.

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Similarly Shoorpanaka is also shown as his daughter in the first haf while she is shown to be his suster in the second half. Thus the details lack consistency.

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When you consider other well-known figures like Jesus, Mohammad, and Guru Nanak, they have a single storyline that helps to develop a narrative of their lives.

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Ravanan was a Tamil king who contributed immensely for the development of saivism. He was a deep devotee of lord Shiva and was received with eternal powers.

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is a legend, and Lanka is a legendary kingdom described in this legend (and other legends based on it). So, it's quite logical that this article is based on

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Shiv Councilor: Just as Jai and Vijay are the councilors of Vishnu, in the same way, Baan, Ravana, Chand, Nandi, Bhringi etc. are the councillors of Shiva.

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The Tamil language has a literary tradition of over 2100 years, while Sinhala as a language developed only after the introduction of Buddhism to Sri Lanka

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Total blunder.Gautama Buddha belonged to 563 BCE/480 BCE – c. 483 BCE/400 BCE period. Ravana was thousands of years before him and his teaching.

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is continuously reverting Ravana Article again and again and adding unrelated cited work done by Wang and Goddard which has no reference to

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Shaivism was practiced by Rajasinghe I of Sitawaka. But he is Sinhalese. You slowly trying to make Ravana is a Tamil. But get out from that.

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Great Tamil epics such as Silapadikaram, Manimehalai and Kundalakesi germinated and blossomed in the hey day of Buddhism among the Tamils.

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It is important for a read to understand the history and facts behind a name. That is why most several articles in wiki is having the

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for his father's betrayal. Ravana, after knowing his own brother had killed their father, running amock and killed Danaraja (Kubera).

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Not necessarily, elven But to say ramayana is biased towards him is an unfair statement. even a tyrant may have some good qualities.

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While one set of myths from your side suggest Ravana was Sinhalese, let me please remind you Ramayana was an epic composed in the

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It is said that Ravana had 10 heads. But not 10 hands. So the picture must be replaced with some other picture which is correct

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some scientific investigations of soil radioactivity could reveal a part of the intriguing mystery that surrounds this place.

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King Ravana of Sri Lanka is well-known in myth and legend and the story of Rama and Sita as told in the epic poem, the Indian

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as well as Vaidhehi. He was known for various misdeeds and was cursed by many. Just do a google search of Ravana and cursed.

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As per the Jain religion , Ravana is currently in hell, but a few thousand years from now he will be reborn as a Tirthankar

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The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Hinduism by James G. Lochtefeld p. 568: "Ravana is the ten headed demon king of Lanka"

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You are correct that Ravana is not an Asura in the Vedic sense but later Asuras changed its meaning in Hinduism. See

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Epic Mythology By Edward Washburn Hopkins pp. 39-41: Describes Ravana in Rakshasa section.Translations of the epics:

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much earlier than your Sinhalese Prince Vijaya landed in Lanka or even earlier than his roots were formed in India.

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Ravana may or may not appear in the Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra but the cited works, Wang and Goddard, make no reference to

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First of all Ravana is not a Sinhalese king; he is a mythical king of Sri Lanka from the mythical inhabitants of

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First of all Ravana is not a Sinhalese king; he is a mythical king of Sri Lanka from the mythical inhabitants of

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Is it possible that in the war between Rama and Ravana that the final outcome was decided with nuclear weapons?

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Ravana, as a practitioner of Buddhism, is a major character in Buddhist texts such as the Laṅkāvatāra Sūtra ?

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Then, in Wyamba is to be found a rural township called ‘Wariyapola” which means, strangely enough, ‘airport!’

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Pleased with his bravery and devotion, Shiva granted him further strength, culminating in his gifting him the

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According the astronomical calculations cited earlier, Ravana’s people could have been in the island (Lanka)

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Please note that Ravana is not mentioned in the new citation (Encyclopedia of Buddhism, volume 6) either. --

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We can remove this section, since this is a nationalists' claim and no need to include in etymology.

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Rakshasas and Yakshas are the same, it's just nature! Ravana's mother was from Bharadwaj gotra.

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This article needs a lot of work. I will go through and Anglify it when I get some free time. --

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Was Ravana really a 'demon' or was it a degratory term used to elevate Rama beyond his stature?

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Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions p. 909: "... wealthy, demonic (raksasa) king"

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source that has said that Ramayana was a historical event. It is part of religion or tradition.

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of Jaya, the gatekeeper at Vaikunta, the abode of Vishnu and was cursed to be born as Ravana.

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are the one who's complaining about these supposed sources not being present in the article,

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Wish you all wisdom, and the courage to live together and to listen to each other's stories.

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or my enemies in three births?" They agreed to three births t to be enemies of Vishnu. : -->

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Puranic encyclopedia by Vettam Mani p. 645: "The Raksasa King of Lanka who had ten heads"

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I've done some Google-search on Ravana & Tamil King; it gave the "Sanskritisation of

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Some of the dates in this article may be incorrect or in need of additional citations.

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In the Kamba Ramayana, Ravana is referred to as the Illankai Venthan- King of Illankai.

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epic itself, Ravana was known as a Tamil monarch inherited Lanka from his penances to

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This is totally ubsurd. First it says that Ravana is a practitioner of Buddhism ?

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Further if you want to know the real History of SL Tamils you can refer this Book.

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Mandodari too was unhappy at the overstay of another's consort even as captive.

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Rama and Laxmana were well within their rights to rescue Sita within two months.

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Meghanātha (Meghnāth in Hindi) is just another name for Indrajit, Ravana's son.

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and now Sinhala/Sinhalese.4 ancient tribes are Yaksha,Naga,Deva and Raksha.

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I thought he only had multiple heads he is from the Asura Tribe of lanka.

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I haven't said anywhere Ravana is a Tamil but he was known for practicing

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was composed in present-day India, Sri Lanka or United States of America.

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As per Jain Religion, Ravana is God for Jain. Will anybody clearify?

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of Ramayana is a mythical kingdom. It is not same as the present-day

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is the book written on Ravana btw. And no, it's not stone engraved.

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Ravana's brother was Kumbhakarana, a giant who would always sleep.

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Ravana is an Asura from a Puranic context. 8: 1577:(Meaning 4 Native Tribes) in a later period 1061:Ravana Sri Lanka and Sinahalese , neutrality 3514:So I think "is" would be more appropriate.@ 918:Ravana/Ravanan was a Tamil Saivaite Emperor 3463: 2853: 2723:Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2017 2506:I have just modified one external link on 1751:Ravana in the Ramayana and the Mahabharata 1613:NOT YOU however vociferous you claim to be 1407:is a Chennai based South Indian newspaper. 3109:Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2021 2237:Indian history.kalhana's rajatarangini?-- 1664:- Sai Baba site; bottom of page mentions 1024:Which Sinhalese monastery worships Ravana 872:image page (File:RavanKailashAndolan.jpg) 146:before the Lord saying, "What will : --> 1662:http://www.saibabaofindia.com/ravana.htm 1195:Where you have proven he is a Sinhalese? 612:Knowledge:Votes for deletion/Talk:Ravana 3150:2409:4042:4E80:AE6F:9062:4592:3236:1A97 2874:Since when did Ravana had multiple arms 1887:Some clean-up done in Etymology section 1804: 434: 2977:2407:C00:6001:C92B:F826:7BBB:576C:812A 646:Myth or legend? Fiction? I think not. 414:What nonsense Hanuman was a celibate. 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 2545:to let others know (documentation at 2422:- numerously referred to as rakshasa. 1757:Ravana in Sri Lankan art and folklore 834:, has been nominated for deletion at 713:For example, the same can be said of 7: 2315:-born author, and does not have any 2220:Please be mindful of the fact that 1812:Raksha + Vana) see after the jungle. 1838:Needs verification and correction. 1532:--CuCl2 13:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC) 866:then it cannot be uploaded or used. 196:refers to any evildoer, what about 1855:Why Etymology section has removed? 898:Hindustan times as reliable source 404: 24: 2510:. Please take a moment to review 2054:. Please take a moment to review 2014:several discussions in past years 1972:Sorry that is wrong. 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