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This article is a complete lie, Razakars were worse then nazis and were no way the victims. This article needs to be rewritten by using neutral publications(many western new outlets have the story). Article has now been corrected.
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Doesn't this article need an "Atrocities" section as a main component ? It is a known fact
Massive atrocities were perpetrated by the Razakars on the general populace especially Hindus. Sources are easily available.
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