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as a way to determine the film's long-term viability. As for English-speaking territories, I think that has more to do with the total gross of the film in that particular territory. After all, there is a distinction between "this section may detail specific results of opening weekends" and "results from different English-speaking territories". If a film performs noticeably well in a non-English language country, it is worth reporting. I think there's just a lot of different details that the guidelines cannot cover comprehensively. Maybe it's worth a discussion at WT:MOSFILM to say "follow the source" in its analysis of the box office performance? Also, for what it's worth,

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Did many external reviews set a precedent for us to detail (irrelevantly) the precise monetary values of numerous financial deals occuring along the story? Is it really necessary for us to specify the nationality of some minor character (Farra Lemcova)? (Isn't such unnecessary nationalism kind of racist?) What about someone finding a source for attributing "arrogance" as the most important descriptor of Tak Mashido? (If he's aware that he genuinely is known to be the best, than it isn't really a conceit is it? If he really were arrogant, wouldn't that conflict with his secluded-genius backstory, which portrays him as relatively less interested in his own ego?)

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that is a marketing component the distributor should be tackling. It seems, to me at least, that this film is made by Dreamworks and Reliance, produced by 21Laps under Levy (For which he gets $ 10 mill) and the other one. But then I don't know where TouchStone comes from. It DOES belong to Disney so maybe it is just distributing the film under that banner in certain markets.

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titles of the promotional featurettes ("bonus features" is marketing talk) is necessary, since they don't mean anything that couldn't be said by: "The promotional featurettes include a profile of film consultant Sugar Ray Leonard; other extras include deleted and extended scenes with introduction by director Levy." --

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Should there be some list of the robots involved in the cast? I know they don't have actors, even voice actors to credit, but they are major characters in film, they seem important. As an example, the cast and characters section of a 2007-2011 Transformers films mention characters that have no actor

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These guidelines make recommendations on what to include, but absence of other specifics does not mean that these other specifics should be absent. For example, I think it's worth noting the second weekend in general because box office analysts pay attention to the so-called drop in between weekends

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opened in Malaysia and Peru — and I know he said Russia and Mexico, but what is the qualitative difference? To whom, in English-language Knowledge (XXG), would any of these "territories" be of interest besides industry people (who well have numerous trade sources) and, more bluntly, Disney marketing

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production" it seems to be referring to the producers where I always took it to mean the studios. The lack of any official highlighting of Disney leads me to believe its purely a distributing role which makes sense with the Facebook (calls itself the official Disney facebook page for Real Steel) as

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I removed the "Reception" section because I think it is too early to have it based on just five reviews (from Rotten Tomatoes). It's likely that the film will receive 50 or 100 reviews, and the score will definitely change significantly based on that larger sample size. Let me know if you disagree.

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Steel was written in 1956, Rock'Em was created in 1964. It is based on Steel, not extrapolated from a game, with admittedly a very complex and cerebral plot, like Rock 'em Sock 'em. If critics compared it to Bad Boys II repeatedly you might have an argument, as it is, they share at best a very thin

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As for the fact that many reviewers have drawn one particular comparison to the movie, that clearly justifies the "Critical response" subsection noting that. The fact we're even discussing this seems ridiculous - instead, we should be talking about the excessive level of detail in the plot section.

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to the "See also" section. I am wondering if other editors think that this is an appropriate addition. While sources do mention Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots in reference to the film, it is usually tongue-in-cheek. As an encyclopedia, our content should be serious-minded (even for the funny topics). One

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report and analyze the figures. We reference them in turn. Knowledge (XXG) has all kinds of information that appeal to different readers. Some readers may like to read about production, others about the theatrical release. In addition, box office information is useful to report because it assesses

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Apologies, in advance, if I overlooked an obvious link. I clicked on discussion and things seem to have changed since I last posted. I would like to request some information be added regarding the film format. At the beginning it states that this movie was released in both conventional and IMAX

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Another way to mention it would be in the merchandising section, because I saw at the store that a RESER type game with the robots from this film was released. You could just add a sentence like "A tie in game for this film was created style of Rock'em Rock'em Robots, a game that many critics have

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Quite frankly, if you try to resist this you're only likely to find a "robot boxing genre" article gets created and linked directly in the lead sentence no-less, plus that a "robot boxing genre" navbox gets created and transcluded wholesale onto the bottom of the article. So I think it's much less

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The first and third sentences, which are about format, seem necessary, of course. Not sure we need the second sentence: The fact it's being released in three specific formats is notable; mentioning the specific marketing configurations feels like promotional in nature. And I'm not sure giving the

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A typical reader of this article is obviously very likely to be interested in also reading our other robot boxing articles (such as RESER, OMF2097, and Matheson's Steel if the page existed). The bar for inclusion in "see also" should deliberately be low; its function is to help encourage/interest

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The promotional intent, however, is of equal concern; as the many people I know who have worked at "Mauschwitz" (as Disney is sometimes more or less affectionately referred to) can attest, it is inconceivable that no one there is monitoring Knowledge (XXG) — which is laudable and foresighted for

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There is absolutely no reason it shouldn't be mentioned. I defy anyone (without knowledge of this film and with knowledge of, or even just knowledge of pop culture references to, Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots) to watch any of the trailers for this, and not automatically think: "Did they really make a

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Mentioning in what way? I'm a little confused. "Some reviewers thought the movie reminded them of Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots"? Unless those reviewers are specifically saying something pertinent, such as that the filmmakers used likenesses of the toys without obtaining the rights, then why is that

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I think we have too many images of Hugh Jackman! We have him in the poster and him in free images in the production and release sections. Maybe we could replace the one in production with one of the filming locations? I didn't do that earlier because I didn't know which locations would be very

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You should remember that movie reviews also commonly compare this film to "Rocky." Would anyone have a problem with mentioning that in the reception section? The short story Steel was written long before Rocky, so you can't say Steel was based on Rocky, but the FILM Real Steel might have been

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films were based on similar toys. Also, the film has not been released or reviewed, so there is not a setup for sampling responses to the film, including a possible comparison to Rock 'Em Sock 'Em. I think including it in the "See also" section is a jokey addition too. There is no explicit

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Biggest opening of an IMAX movie would seem notable. Biggest opening in October? I have to wonder how that is notable, and whether this means we're going to list biggest IMAX openings for every month. I'm not sure that sort of highly specific industry detail has any meaning to the general

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The amount of content Spinc5 added to the "Box office" section is not overwhelming. In that discussion, the amount of content for some other film articles was overwhelming. For something like the highest IMAX debut for an October release, that information comes from the reliable source

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The first thing I thought of when I heard about 'Real Steel' was this game I played as a child. If there is no connection this should be explicitly stated by the producers. I think the legal consequences of failure to acknowledge any connection at all should also be explored in this

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correcting errors, but crosses the line if Disney attempts to use this encyclopedia for undue-weight promotional edits. The fact that only one person is adding such edits raises a red flag to me. In any event, I'm glad to see another editor weighing in, and I hope we'll see more.--

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I think that the Jackman image in production could be especially replaced by a clear shot of any of the robots, especially ones whose design has been well-covered. I'm pretty sure that Animation World Network (awn.com) will have a visual effects article about the film soon.

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As for RESER, with which this movie has no licensing or rights connection, I still believe that film critics making a glib comparison is non-notable. I'm not sure there's a lot of interest from other editors in that regard; this would be where they would be expressing it.

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connection, and the sources don't appear to report enough of a fuss that we could report a negative (e.g., "The film is not based on the toys Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots"). I'm sure an opportunity will come up to mention them in some way; there is nothing suitable right now.

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Follow-up: I changed my mind about the contributions. The sources need to be ones conducting analysis. We need to do better than referencing Box Office Mojo's tables directly because there is no indication whether the information is worth noting or not. There is analysis

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I think it's worth making the comparison here, for the same reasons that reviewers have done it elsewhere. (The film is uniquely and entirely centered on one concept - robot boxing - that, while highly novel, is not actually original but rather has several noteworthy

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I think the article says the special-effects house Legacy built 26 1/2 robots. I'm sure there are images somewhere; may fan-press journalists were on a set visit and I'm sure took photos that they would upload with the rights to use. Any fan-press guys out there?

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You tell the facts, like in any Knowledge (XXG) article. You explain exactly what the critics say... for instance, if you find more of the review I cited above you might write "Critics say this film appeals to those who grew up with Rock ’Em Sock ’Em Robots."

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going to talk about a sequel that was announced seven years ago, I would probably just write "a sequel was announced in 2011" and leave it at that. There isn't much point in discussing, in detail, a speculative event that never actually happened. Per

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similarity, robots and boxing. Might as well call it Wolverine 2 since it has Hugh Jackman in it if we are allowing such base comparisons to pass as analysis rather than what it is: an easy/lazy way for the reviewer to describe the content of the film.

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calls it "A Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures release of a DreamWorks Pictures and Reliance Entertainment presentation of a 21 Laps/Montford Murphy production." I'm reluctant to mention the companies in the infobox because it becomes indiscriminate.

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Maybe this is notable, I can't be sure. There didn't seem to be an obvious way to mention it in the article like "Legacy". Maybe someone else can think of a better way to make use of this or maybe it wont seem notable enough by next week. --

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apparently premiered in Paris on September 6. I'm trying to find a reliable source online to reference this specific date. Can anyone help? It also appears that the film has premiered in some other countries leading up to its public release;

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Here are the final, contractual main crew credits, in order, from the official press kit, which by contract are the onscreen credits. Please DO NOT add uncited claims about other individuals who, per Paramount, did NOT work on the film:

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theaters but without any reference to the source format. If I did miss the obvious place to make this request would you please leave this up for 6 hours and give me an obvious pointer? I will check back late this evening. Thank you.

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Per this review, at least, it was his girlfriend: "ten-year-old Max (Dakota Goya), his son with the now-late woman he'd abandoned while she was pregnant... phttp://www.filmjournal.com/content/film-review-real-steel].

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My edit summary about the ages not being in the cited article was incorrect. My apologies. I was correct in that the cited source was making a different point about the demographics than the article presented, and

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That's like saying we have too much Oxygen. It might balance out if the article expands, I don't know how much information is going to be available for it but Id keep the premiere pic if you're only keeping one.

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I would disagree with your latter point, and I'm unconvinced that some film critics mentioning the toy has any pertinence. They mention the toy — so? What does that mean? What larger meaning is that supposed to

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A figurative mention of Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots in a film review is all well and good, but it has nothing to do with the movie, which has no relationship to or licensing agreement with the toy manufacturer.--

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because I suspect this is part of the same trend to add false company information to film articles and vice versa. I am pretty positive about this but have issued a low-level template warning just in case.

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What about in the reception section, professional film reviewers compare the film to "Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots", would it seem to be worth mentioning? There are pleanty of examples of it, like this

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sounds high. Since no other source repeats it right now, I'm thinking we should not mention the budget right now. Otherwise, we could do a "$ 80–130 million" range, but that's too unspecific, IMO.

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how audiences respond to the film. In addition, figures outside of the US and Canada are also useful because it is global coverage, and that's something that's tough to do for all-American films.

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I can understand your position, but in this case I think it's borderline - a seemingly trivial comparison has become near universal by critics. I would also appreciate input from other editors.

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I'm fine with Spinc5's contributions to the "Box office" section. We can tweak the wording a little bit to avoid terms like "close race" and "gained on". I've seen secondary sources cover

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I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "legal consequences of failure to acknowledge any connection at all" ... because there's no connection. The movie and the game are unrelated.

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way we could link to it is when the film comes out, there will inevitably be a review or two comparing the film to these toys, and perhaps we can link to it then, in the article body.

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Critics are making the comparison. It doesn't mean it is an apt comparison. There is no connection between the film or the game apart from a ring and that things fight in that ring.

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If Mattel, the current rights-holder, were to raise an objection, that would be notable. But Mattel hasn't. The movie and the game have absolutely nothing to do with each other. --

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MOS in certain respects — and you can see I simply trimmed back and condensed his edits, having in no way simply deleted or rolled back. You and I agree in general, I think. --

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bonus features include "Making of Metal Valley," "Building the Bots," and "Bloopers." The 2-disc and 3-disc combo packs include all the same bonus features as the DVD, plus

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The information is sourced. When there are reliable sources talking about a potential sequel, we always include it in the article, whether or not the sequel is ever made.

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In any event, you initiated the discussion, and I responded. The discussion is even and level. Why don't we let other editors weigh in? If you're so inclined, call for an

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has results indicating that it's a DreamWorks-Reliance Entertainment production. I have a feeling most of these sources don't know what they're talking about, haha.

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21Laps is Shawn Levy's company and he is directing and producing so that is why that one is there at least. I can't see any mention of Disney on the official site.

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says, "Jackman has set off on a global promotional jaunt that brings him to Paris, Germany, England and Latin America." More references like this would be useful.

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quotes the director, "I'm not allowed to say—it's a little north of $ 80 million." It does make sense that it would be higher than the original figure, but

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infulenced by Rocky... so the films have been fairly compared by critics. Same with RESER, it was a standard of the culture long before this film was made.

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Thanks, I'll make the edits and add it to the article. I'm not sure about the "Digital Download" thing. It was how it was written in the press release. --

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Surely Marvin was named after Lee Marvin the star of the Twilight Zone episode of this story and if so and it should included as a fact in this article.

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Hi, Erik. Always good to speak with you. I'm not sure "the highest IMAX debut for an October release" is what you have in mind. As you and others noted

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The infobox says it is based on a book or a short story. And that is sourced. So no, it is not appropriate to add a link to rock em sock em robots.

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labels it as a Disney release and mentions the following involved with production: "Touchstone, DreamWorks, 21 Laps, Montford/Murphy Prods." Yet

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readers to more explore this encyclopedia (and thus, as it is presently such a short list, I endorse adding 2-3 other robot boxing pages there).

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Considering the sheer volume of comparisons between the two, it's not mere trivia. It's hard to find any reviews that DO NOT mention the RESER.

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says Dreamworks. I would've said leave out 21 Laps as it seems to be there solely because of Levy, Dreamworks is the actual studio making it.

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I'm thankful we're on the same page, since you're a responsible and collegial editor. Context, as you note, is critical, since we're not an

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I appreciate your understanding. It's always good to work with a civil colleague and I hope others will add their own perspective. --

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takes a limited view of the box office section, probably to avoid this type of promotional-seeming prose: It says this section

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Concur completely. Despite what people may mistakenly glean from a trailer, we can't list everything this movie is

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is a featured article with a solid "Theatrical run" section. It really is just a matter of what the sources say.

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mentioning the IMAX milestone, is it a problem to report that? We can revise the wording of such a report.

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on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join

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The DVD and Blu-ray release has been announced, and I was thinking of adding the following language:

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and I discussed it on our talk pages and agreed to keep the edit. Knowledge (XXG) collaboration! --

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Disney might be named because Touchstone Pictures is one of the company's labels. If you Google

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Not really mixed reviews. A 60% score and A ratings should translate to 'good reviews'.

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is worth calling out because it is a unique feature. I'm going to leave this. Thanks. --

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Can someone help untangle the mess of companies mentioned as involved with this film?

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If there's an official tie-in game, yes, of course, we should mention it, with citing.

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There is a consensus to exclude the talks of a potential sequel from the article per

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I'm not sure Digital Download is capitalized; is it a proper-noun, trademarked term?

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The problem is what context it fits. The film is not based on these toys like the

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It appears that Spinc5 has edited box office information for Warner Bros. (e.g.,

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Is it me or does Atom's discription (fast for the most part) echo Muhammad Ali?(

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it'd be worth mentioning, maybe as part of the script-development process. --

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Real Steel's Hugh Jackman: What the Critics Are Saying About His Performance

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http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-07/ae/30255095_1_robot-atom-hugh-jackman

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Weren't there some actual robots built? Are there no set photos of those?

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If reviews repeatedly mention it though, it seems worth mentioning here.

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Around-the-World Roundup: 'Real Steel,' 'Johnny English' in Close Fight

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Should we include the talks about a potential sequel in the article?

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Reports say the budget is $ 110 million, so we have our answer now.

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Based in Part upon the Short Story “Steel” by. RICHARD MATHESON

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Isn't the film based on some old DOS shareware game? Namely,

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Casting by. DAVID RUBIN, C.S.A. & RICHARD HICKS, C.S.A.

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Produced by. DON MURPHY & SUSAN MONTFORD and SHAWN LEVY

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I'm pushing this article for a C class assessment level.

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cluttering to just let "see also" perform its purpose.

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I found a reference for the world premiere in Paris.

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Weekend Report: 'Real Steel' Wins Middleweight Bout

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