Talk:Regar - Knowledge (XXG)

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drowry system.girls sex ratio in verma cast is higher as compare to boys .Boys demand is higher as compare to girls in this cast .This cast is producing famous doctor ,Iitian,actors and actress,businesman and businesswomen .it's bussiness is established in india and abroad successfully .It is very less in population but number one leading cast in india .this cast is already progressive it's not need any kind of reservation .this cast is orignate from rajput cast and higer in position but latter british govt crush this .after long time of struggle this is topmost cast in india .this cast has so much talent they don't need any kind of reservation .

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V Artisans, GROUP 11. Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197) , Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/

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Savitri granted a boon from Yamaraja (God of Death) she and her father will be blessed with 100 sons. And regarding this, those hundred sons of King Ashwapati named as Malav after their mother's name Malavi. According to genealogy of Madra King, during Mahabharata King Shalya was ruler of Madra Kingdom who was also maternal uncle of Pandavas.

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I am citing the modern reliable sources about the Regar caste from a recent book published in 2011.Regar belonged to Kshatriya mentioned in the book by the Indian Author CHANDANMAL NAVALBook publisher, RAJASTHANI GRANTHAGAR, JODHPURBook title “रैगर जाति - Regar Caste (History and Culture)”Please read

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But only because of Raigars of Eastern Rajputana (Bharatpur Karauli Dholpur region) whole of the Raigar tribe named under the scheduled caste list along with chamaras, bhambi, mochi and others too. Which is so much shameful for this ancient warrior tribe's respect as 6 states of northern India listed

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It is important to note that the history of the Raigars, like many other communities in India, is complex and multifaceted. Different regions and subgroups within the community may have their own unique histories, traditions, and customs. As with any community, the history of the Raigars is shaped by

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What is the true history of the Raigars of Rajasthan? The Raigar community in Rajasthan, India, has a rich history that is closely linked with the Rajputs, who are a major community in the region known for their valor and chivalry. The Raigars are considered to be a sub-caste of the Rajputs. They are

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Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197. Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower Village Menials ( page 199) Reliable sources Page 196, Class

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Malavas had 100 clans which was originated from 100 Malav Princes, and after the Battle of Hydspes, Malavas along with Kshudrakas (descendants of Kosala king Kshudrak) formed an alliance to face Alexander the great, and with the help of Kathi Kshatriyas, they bravely faced Alexander by which he got

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Hello i would to make a concern and raised up suggestion. regarding this fault wrong information which is keep on updating. regar/raigars doesn't belong to any chamar community neither a sub-caste nor anything part of it. Raigar caste follow hindusim and language is from marwar region of rajasthan.

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Malava Tribe was originated from Maharaja Rishi Ashwapati of Madra Kingdom, who was a descendant of Lord Rama and hence a Suryavanshi Kshatriya ruler of Madra Kingdom. He had a only daughter named Savitri who was married to Prince Satyavan of Shalva Kingdom. According to Tale of Satyavan Savitri,

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Reigar (Rahgar ,Regar) cast is famous as verma cast. It is topmost leading cast in india .it is number one in position among all hindu cast .it is rulling over all over the world .it is a cast free socity .It allows both intercast and same cast merriages without any resistance .This cast opposes

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This is a false information. regar/raigars doesn't belong to any chamar community neither a sub-caste nor anything part of it. Raigar caste follow hindusim and language is from marwar region of rajasthan. it's me request stop misleading people by giving wrong information. regar ancestors were

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Once leatherworkers,at the beginning of the 20th century, the British Raj administration imposed restrictions on the indigenous manufacturing of saltpetre which destroyed their livelihood.At least some community members served as bonded labour (begari) during the British Raj era. British and

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The Raigars have traditionally been involved in agriculture, landowning, and military service. They have a reputation for bravery and loyalty, traits that are highly valued in Rajasthani society. Many Raigar families have a history of serving in the armed forces of various princely states in

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I've added some citations of books published around the end of the 19th century that state "Rehgars" as saltpetre works in Rajasthan. The books seem reliable(Google books). It also includes the census report of 1901. Please review. Hopefully the new changes can be kept.

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reliable, we wouldn't remove the mentions of Chamar or Dalit from the article because there are a bunch of definitely reliable sources to support them. At best, we would just add that Rachoya disagrees with those numerous people - we have to be neutral but also assign

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page 57-59, Regars were kshatriya. They are not untouchables.Please ready page number 35-38, Regars are not related to Chamar Regars were not Dalit.The editor of the article Regar mentioned the caste as untouchables according to an anthropologist book writer.

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Emperor Vikramaditya, son of Malav King Gandharwasen and grandson of Nabovahana, established monarchial rule who was a member of Parmar/ Panwar clan of Malavas. And the only ruling dynasty from the Malavas was the Parmar dynasty who ruled till 1947.

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During the 1st Shaka and Jauhar of Chittorgarh, when Rawal Ratan Singh was ruler of Mewar, Shri ShivShankar Mandawariya ji, who commanded army of Raigars martyred in that battle and his wife Jajorini (daughter of Udaji Jajoria) committed Sati.

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No, because he isn't reliable! We can't state the opinions of every Tom, Dick or Harriet just because they are in print or on some website, only the different opinions of reliable sources. It doesn't look like even now you have read

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of the Knowledge (XXG) community remains constant: we consider modern academic sources to be the most reliable for our purposes. There is, of course, nothing to stop you writing differently on some other website ... but not here. -

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But what they had their ancestral occupation of warfare and crop production, they served as as peasants and warrior soldiers in different states of ancient Rajputana who also fought many wars and battles against Turks and Mughals.

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injured but they were defeated so they left Punjab region and occupied the region of Eastern Rajputana, at Karkotaka (near Tonk) and then they occupied the region of Ujjain where that place was today also known as Malwa Plateau.

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Many of the Raigars were also granted and awarded with the titles of Raje in Punjab, Lamberdar/Nambardar in Delhi Haryana, Chaudhary in Rajasthan, which was also the titles of Rajputs. So why Raigars were known as Dalits?🤦‍♂️

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During the battle between Muhammad Ghori and Emperor Prithviraj Chauhan, Shri Gunjal Sunwasiya served and fought from Rajputs side and martyred. His samadhi was placed near the Old Fort till after some times of Independence.

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Other clans else of Parmar dynasty, who were also Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas from the dynastical roots from Ayodhya and also were descendants of Shri Ram, were named as Raghu tribe which in time to time corrupted to Raghur -:

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landlords exploited them and force them to work in farms as labour .Raigars are the descendants of ancient Malava Tribe, who had their own republic states in the South of Punjab and North of Rajputana during Mahabharata.

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During Mahabharata war, this tribe fought from both the sides of Kauravas and Pandavas. Elephant Ashwatthama, who was killed by Bheemsen, was of Malava chieftain IndraVerma. Many of Malavas were martyred in this war.

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Raigars who besides in the region of Bharatpur, Karauli, Dholpur joined the Jatava movement started by Swami Achhutanand Maharaj, took the title Jatava (also Chamaras) and hence they called as Jatavas or Chamaras.

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Afterwards, all those warrior princes Malavas settled themselves between the region of doab in Punjab and lived there as a union. They hadn't have any King but a chieftain who was granted a title of Raja/Naresh.

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that verifies them. Similarly, do not remove reliably sourced information that is already present. I am well aware that various people do not like the idea that their community has any sort of connection to the

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Few people of regar caste due to poverty started working as leather worker due to which they got highlighted as leather worker but it is Wrong information you have added that regars were untouchable dalit.

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Whereas , Chamar and Jatav is mentioned in Class VII on page 199. which means both are different group of people and different community and doesn’t belong to each other. Regar (Rehgar) is not related to

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Else of these Raigars, other Raigars moved with the Parmar chiefs (in Punjab under Baba Bachhittar Singh Panwar, Ranas of Umarkot in Sindh, & Rulers of Muli in Gujarat) to different parts of India.

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Else of these Raigars, other Raigars moved with the Parmar chiefs (in Punjab under Baba Bachhittar Singh Panwar, Ranas of Umarkot in Sindh, & Rulers of Muli in Gujarat) to different parts of India.

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here I am citing another modern book published in 2018 on Regar history and origin whose author, P.N. Rachoya is well qualified and has taken a degree in BALLB, LLM, Phd and is highly qualified author.

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The Regar (also spelled as Raigar, Rehgar, Raigarh, Ranigar and Rehgarh)are a caste group of India. The Regar are found in the states of Punjab, Haryana, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan.

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The Regar (also spelled as Raigar, Rehgar, Raigarh, Ranigar and Rehgarh)are a caste group of India. The Regar are found in the states of Punjab, Haryana, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan.

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If you are interested in a specific aspect of the history of the Raigars or have a particular question in mind, please feel free to provide more details so I can offer more targeted information.

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They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him.

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They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him.

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They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him.

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it's me request stop misleading people by giving wrong information. regar ancestors were warriors and known as Raghuvanshi Kshatriya. it's my kind request please work on it. Thanks

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I am not trying to sanskitise a community. But as you said you wanted modern sources . You changed the facts according to a book . I gave you the correct facts according to books.

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This exact request, word-for-word, was made 11 months ago, and it was declined. I am declining it again, for the exact same reason: you need to provide reliable sources.

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Chamar is mentioned separately and Regar/Rehgar/Raigar has been mentioned separately which a evidence to prove they both are different and are not related to each other

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I am sorry but I already have the books with me. I have read both the books thoroughly and the kirti publications is in no more active. The author is highly educated.

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Malavas along with Kshudrakas who formed a union , resulted in the uprising of 350+ clans of Malavas because union resulted Kshudrakas emerged in the Malava tribe.

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Malavas along with Kshudrakas who formed a union , resulted in the uprising of 350+ clans of Malavas because union resulted Kshudrakas emerged in the Malava tribe.

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During the battle of Alaniawas, fought between Rajputs under Thakur Kushal Singh of Auwa and Britishers, Sugnoji and Hadmanoji were fought bravely and martyred.

520:, Rehgar caste was categorised (which is now known as Regar/Raigar) under Class V ARTISANS( page 196) in Group 11 (Salt and Lime workers, page 197) as Rehgar. 305:, Rehgar caste was categorised (which is now known as Regar/Raigar) under Class V ARTISANS( page 196) in Group 11 (Salt and Lime workers, page 197) as Rehgar. 1642:

What qualifications does that author have? And what is their connection to the caste, if any? I've never heard of the publisher, which isn't a good start. -

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Raigars are the descendants of ancient Malava Tribe, who had their own republic states in the South of Punjab and North of Rajputana during Mahabharata.

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5. In 1936, The official Scheduled caste (lower caste) list was presented by the Government of India in which there is no mention of Raigar/Regar caste.

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5. In 1936, The official Scheduled caste (lower caste) list was presented by the Government of India in which there is no mention of Raigar/Regar caste.

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You've gathered wrong information. They are not responsible for lake of resources in North India. They are seeker of truth from thousands of years.

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of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change

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of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change

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According to Census of India 1901, Rehgar/Regar/Raigar caste is not a sub group of Chamar/Jatav caste but is itself a separate caste

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clearly mention Rehgar(which is now known as Regar) on page 197 under Class V Artisans in Group 11(Salt and Lime workers) as Rehgar.

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during the formation of Indian Constitution in 1950 because they were socially backward and being oppressed during British rule.

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during the formation of Indian Constitution in 1950 because they were socially backward and being oppressed during British rule.

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No, They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, since origin of yoga. So they didn't worried about any social propaganda.

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thankyou for considering . Then please just add “ At best, we would just add that Rachoya disagrees with those numerous people

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Some historians historically proven that Regar origin was originally from Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas and Belonged to Rajputana.

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Some historians historically proven that Regar origin was originally from Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas and Belonged to Rajputana.

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I'm sorry but it is obvious from your messages that you are not reading the information given in links - most notably,

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but How come after independence government census sources become old? Instead they are the real evidence to proof that

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After a lots of research and studying theories, I have found all the facts related to True History of Raigars :-

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In some parts on India like Assam and southern states of India they were categorised in Other Backward Castes.

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In some parts on India like Assam and southern states of India they were categorised in Other Backward Castes.

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Please remove these two statements untouchable/ Dalit and chamar from the article as these are not the truth.

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Nor they were Dalits. Dalits are those who were given lower status in the ancient times. Raigars are Artisans.

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Please remove these two statements untouchable/ Dalit and chamar from the article as these are not the truth.

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Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197.

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Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197.

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2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891

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Plss sir dlt your wrong information Regar cast is not chamar Regar cast is rangad rajput,sagarvanshi xatriy

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Actually, Rajasthani Granthagar Jodhpur sounds like a vanity publisher, judging by the info for authors at

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believed to be descendants of the Rajput clans and have a history of military service and land ownership.

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2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891

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Even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned in 1901 Census of India

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http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/ideologie/data/CensusIndia/CensusIndia1901/CensusIndia1901IndiaTables.pdf

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has been authorised by the community for pages related to South Asian social groups, including this page.

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to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. -

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Edit 1: Raigars are not leather tanners or dalits, they are Kshatriya warriors of Raghuvanshi dynasty.

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Wikipeda is not concerned with your "truth" we base articles on what reliable independent sources say.

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Book titlte, “रैगर जाति की उत्पत्ति व सम्पूर्ण इतिहास- Origin and Complete History of Regar Caste”

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might cause you to be blocked or topic banned under the sanctions I posted on your talk page. -

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This page is being edited by people too many times. My changes get overridden in a few hours.

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Raigars are not leather tanners or dalits, they are Kshatriya warriors of Raghuvanshi dynasty.

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It is clearly mentioned in the historical original document. It is clearly stating the facts.

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For Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste refer to page 343-344 and for Chamar caste refer to page 320.

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For Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste refer to page 343-344 and for Chamar caste refer to page 320.

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but I didn’t knew you have some personal grudges against changing the facts which I proved

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