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Where has the information in this article come from? Only the over US$ 100m section has a reference, and the data in the link isn't even the same as that written here! We really need to have some references in this article, especially as it is simply a statement of revenues. We can't be using this
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The 2 February 2023 source says "Since 2019, the average MLS team’s valuation has climbed 85% to $ 579 million." The top club is at $ 1 billion so it would only have to increase 33% in 9 months to have been below $ 750 million in May 2022. I don't know how accurate the numbers are but it doesn't
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Not only that, debt as a percentage of value is also meaningless. It tells us nothing. Look at any successful firm and if you find that debt-equity ratios are never close to zero. Also, what is the value? Is it equity value or something else? It says market value and links to an article about
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This table is wrong! Manchester City are not valued at 383 million, and ranked 20th. Sheikh
Mansoor purchased the club in 2008 for ÂŁ360 million, and today is valued at 1.92 Billion, which would rank them 6th. Source - forbes.com
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